offense penalized

[d1ref2b]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I hope we are not about to have a long discussion about throw-ins and OOB violations.

Badnews, you do not have to participate, but it does not involved an OOB violation. I can not think of any OOB violation that the defense can commit. They can reach throught the plane, but that doesn't penalize the offense.

What fun would it be if I told you the violation. Give it some more thought. You guys are way smarter than me, and I was able to come up with it.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by d1ref2b

I can not think of any OOB violation that the defense can commit.

I can. The defense can't go OOB for an unauthorized reason. Violation.

[Adam]

Leaving the court for an unauthorized reason? Spot throwin nearest the violation could be in the offensive backcourt.

[d1ref2b]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Leaving the court for an unauthorized reason? Spot throwin nearest the violation could be in the offensive backcourt.

Wouldn't that be a T and play would resume at POI? Offense not penalized. They get 2 shots and the ball back.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by d1ref2b

Wouldn't that be a T and play would resume at POI? Offense not penalized. They get 2 shots and the ball back.

Not under NFHS rules.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by d1ref2b

Wouldn't that be a T and play would resume at POI? Offense not penalized. They get 2 shots and the ball back.

No, leaving the court for an unauthorized reason is a violation under NFHS rules. Failing to return directly and immediately is a T if the player had left the court for an authorized reason. If the defense commits this violation in or near the backcourt while the offense is about to shoot an uncontested layup, and an official blows his whistle to prove he knows the rule, the offense gets penalized.
And single Ts are never POI in NFHS.

[d1ref2b]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

No, leaving the court for an unauthorized reason is a violation under NFHS rules. Failing to return directly and immediately is a T if the player had left the court for an authorized reason. If the defense commits this violation in or near the backcourt while the offense is about to shoot an uncontested layup, and an official blows his whistle to prove he knows the rule, the offense gets penalized.
And single Ts are never POI in NFHS.

I agree that the offense is "penalized" in this situation but, this is not it. I am looking for penalized by rule.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

If the defense commits this violation in or near the backcourt while the offense is about to shoot an uncontested layup, and an official blows his whistle to prove he knows the rule, the offense gets penalized.

See the case book play that I cited, Snaqs.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

A boundary plane infraction, which results in a warning, is a violation. I don't have my books with me, but I believe it is called this specifically in the rulebook.

[d1ref2b]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

A boundary plane infraction, which results in a warning, is a violation. I don't have my books with me, but I believe it is called this specifically in the rulebook.

I believe you are correct, but is the offense penalized by this defense violation. First is a warning and second is a T.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by d1ref2b

I believe you are correct, but is the offense penalized by this defense violation. First is a warning and second is a T.

How is the offense penalized by the defense receiving a warning?

[d1ref2b]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

How is the offense penalized by the defense receiving a warning?

The offense isn't penalized. However, this is not the play in question. Come on guys. You are all way to smart. I will give you a few more tries. I think it is relevant enough to warrant a rules change and have addressed it with Mary Struckhoff and our State Association.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by d1ref2b

The offense isn't penalized. However, this is not the play in question. Come on guys. You are all way to smart. I will give you a few more tries. I think it is relevant enough to warrant a rules change and have addressed it with Mary Struckhoff and our State Association.

Well, there aren't very many defensive violations. Stepping oob to get around a screen, kicking the ball, BI and GT. The only one I can think of that might be used to penalize the offense would be stepping oob to stop an imminent drive and shot, but in that case we are authorized to delay the violation call until afther the offensive play is completed.

[mick]

"A player or team should not be permitted an advantage which is not intended by a rule."

To answer your question: Dunno.

[deecee]

ths should get good I got my popcorn out and ready to roll...