Techical Foul-Ejection

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Very interesting...the "I voted for the funding before I voted against it" school.

I have absolutely no idea what this is supposed to mean.

Should I file this under the heading of "honesty" or merely "intellectually lazy"?

Neither. What are some of the other nearly infinite options? I can think of 3 obvious ones that are reasonable options:

1) Respond by lying. (This could be by saying that the official got it right; or by saying that you don't know; or by saying that you didn't see it when you did see it.)

2) Respond truthfully. (This could be by explaining the rule; or by saying that you don't like to discuss rules with fans; or by saying that you didn't see it when you actually didn't.)

3) Do not respond and simply ignore the question. (Feign death, in "Far Side" terms.)

Of course there are other options, like punching out the questioner or changing seats to avoid answering or farting in his general direction. But those seem not to be reasonable choices. So if I've been intellectually lazy, what are my other reasonable, nearly infinite, choices?

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Of course there are other options, like punching out the questioner or changing seats to avoid answering or farting in his general direction. But those seem not to be reasonable choices.

A lot of teen-age boys would disagree with this assessment.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Neither. What are some of the other nearly infinite options? I can think of 3 obvious ones that are reasonable options:

1) Respond by lying. (This could be by saying that the official got it right; or by saying that you don't know; or by saying that you didn't see it when you did see it.)

2) Respond truthfully. (This could be by explaining the rule; or by saying that you don't like to discuss rules with fans; or by saying that you didn't see it when you actually didn't.)

3) Do not respond and simply ignore the question. (Feign death, in "Far Side" terms.)

Of course there are other options, like punching out the questioner or changing seats to avoid answering or farting in his general direction. But those seem not to be reasonable choices. So if I've been intellectually lazy, what are my other reasonable, nearly infinite, choices?

Why do you assume "I didn't see it" is absolutely a lie?

In fact "I didn't see it" is exactly the truth. Only the calling official knows what he did see or didn't see to cause him to blow or not blow the whistle.

Why do you assume "I have no idea what's going on" is an absolute lie?

In fact only the calling official know's why he did or did not blow the whistle.

And finally...which of your 3 categories does making your daughter shop for her mom's Chritmas gift to avoid telling her the absolute truth about Santa Claus fall into?

Lie? Truth? Feigning death?

[Raymond]

Can't we all just learn the subtleties of being disingenuous?

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Can't we all just learn the subtleties of being disingenuous?

The trick is to learn the art of "defining" terms. Ms. Manners says that all brides and all babies are by definition beautiful. It's not lying to tell your boss, your sister or your next-door neighbor's cousin that their baby is beautiful, even if both the babies eyes are different colors and her nose has a huge pimple on one side (ditto any bride). It's not a lie because by definition of being a baby, or a bride that person is beautiful. It's a very useful skill.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Ms. Manners says that all brides and all babies are by definition beautiful.

Ms. Manners can bite me.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Can't we all just learn the subtleties of being disingenuous?

I prefer to think of it as creative truth telling.

Some prefer to live by the notion that truth defines a universal absolute and inflexible reality...(except when their daughters or certain embarrasing senate votes are involved of course...edit to include ugly brides and malformed babies)