Techical Foul-Ejection

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

I didn't say that. But an unsportsmanlike foul is always technical, regardless of when it occurs, live ball or dead. So the mentor was right. A technical foul can be on anyone at any time. That was my only point.

Scrappy, go back and read Chess Ref's post at 9:27am. He was responding to Tomegun's specific inquiry asking if a technical foul could be called for live ball contact. Chess Ref's answer was that his "higher-up" said that you can call a technical foul on anyone at any time. That statement is wrong. You can't call a technical foul for live-ball contact. Sez so right in the rules.

If you don't believe me, find an IAABO interpreter and ask him.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Chess Ref's answer was that his "higher-up" said that you can call a technical foul on anyone at any time. That statement is wrong.

You are incorrect. The higher-up's statement is correct. Anyone can be charged with an unsporting technical foul at any time during the officials' jurisdiction.

You can't call a technical foul for live-ball contact. Sez so right in the rules.

But that's NOT what Chess Ref's higher-up said, according to Chess Ref's post. The higher-up made no reference to live ball contact in Chess Ref's post. That was my only point. I didn't want somebody to come in and see that and think, "oh, there are times in the game where I can't call a technical foul?". Of course you can, if it's an unsporting foul.

Again, sorry for confusing you with the obvious. I know what he was getting at and you know what he was getting at. But that doesn't mean that everybody will get it.

You CAN call a technical foul on anyone at anytime during the officials' jurisdiction, if it's an unsporting foul.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

You are incorrect. The higher-up's statement is correct. Anyone can be charged with an unsporting technical foul at any time during the officials' jurisdiction.

But that's NOT what Chess Ref's higher-up said, according to Chess Ref's post. The higher-up made no reference to live ball contact in Chess Ref's post. That was my only point. I didn't want somebody to come in and see that and think, "oh, there are times in the game where I can't call a technical foul?". Of course you can, if it's an unsporting foul.

Again, sorry for confusing you with the obvious. I know what he was getting at and you know what he was getting at. But that doesn't mean that everybody will get it.

You CAN call a technical foul on anyone at anytime during the officials' jurisdiction, if it's an unsporting foul.

Lah me, Scrappy. Chess Ref was responding to Tomegun's very specific question about live-ball contact being a technical foul. That's what Chess Ref asked his higher-up....i.e. "if live-ball contact could be a technical foul". The higher-up's reply to that very specific question was that you could call a technical foul on anybody at any time. Nobody ever mentioned an "unsporting foul" at any time but YOU! Not Chess Ref and not his higher-up. That's the point I'm trying to make. Chess Ref's higher-up is wrong.

You really need to switch from decaf to a man's coffee, like Dan. Might open your eyes.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

The higher-up's reply to that very specific question was that you could call a technical foul on anybody at any time.

Fine, you know that's what he was talking about and I know that's what he was talking about, but Chess Ref didn't say in his post that's what he was talking about.

You and I both know the relevant rules. I'm not arguing with you over the rule. I am simply pointing out that an official CAN call a technical foul on anybody at anytime. I am simply pointing that out for the 2% of people that might stroll through this thread and NOT understand what you and I know about the situation.

When taken at their face value, the way they are presented in Chess Ref's post, the words spoken by the higher-up are true. When applied ONLY to the more narrow context of live ball contact (which was NOT done in Chess Ref's post), then we can say that you can't assess a technical foul for that particular infraction. You can still give a T, but not for that particular infraction.