Ball held with legs

[ranjo]

Had a situation last night where a player sitting upright on the floor gathered a loose ball with his legs and held it there waiting for a held ball call.

Didn't we recently have a thread discussing this? I remember something about this being called a violation the same as kicking the ball. I briefly looked for a case play too, but didn't come up with anything.

Where is the thread and whats the correct call?

[ranjo]

I found the orginal post I was looking for, but I still haven't found a similar case book play.

She "kicked" it, and then I kicked it

[Adam]

You won't find one in Fed. It's an NCAA approved ruling that declares this a violation on the squeezer.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

a violation on the squeezer.

I can just see it coming. "What position do you play?" "Power squeezer."

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by ranjo

I found the orginal post I was looking for, but I still haven't found a similar case book play.

She "kicked" it, and then I kicked it

Randy,

Rule 4-29: Kicking the ball is intentionally striking it with any part of the leg or foot.

Gathering the ball with your legs would fall under this ruling.

[Ref Daddy]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Randy,

Rule 4-29: Kicking the ball is intentionally striking it with any part of the leg or foot.

Gathering the ball with your legs would fall under this ruling.

I totally agree with the interp. but what the signal? You have a 9th grade scrum and players grabbing a loose ball.

You cannot come out of the pile with a walking or kicking signal!

[mplagrow]

Originally Posted by Ref Daddy

I totally agree with the interp. but what the signal? You have a 9th grade scrum and players grabbing a loose ball.

You cannot come out of the pile with a walking or kicking signal!

You sure can, if it's the right call. What prevents you from doing that? Fear of the coaches' criticism? Call what is what it is.

[ranjo]

UPDATE -

I posed the question to our state interpeter and got the following response:

GREAT question! I had to look up the actual wording used in Rule 4 to define kicking. The definition says that kicking the ball is intentionally STRIKING the ball with any part of the leg or foot. In the play as you described it, the player did not "strike" the ball but simply used his legs to gather or collect it. In my opinion, no violation occurred.