An exotic foul, or nothing?

[Back In The Saddle]

Boys JV tonight. I have an off-ball foul against white at the same time my partner whistles a on-ball foul against white. Looking through the list in 4-19 of some of the more exotic fouls, the closest fit is the very exotic-sounding false multiple foul.

ART. 11 . . . A multiple foul is a situation in which two or more teammates commit personal fouls against the same opponent at approximately the same time.

ART. 12 . . . A false multiple foul is a situation in which there are two or more fouls by the same team and the last foul is committed before the clock is started following the first, and at least one of the attributes of a multiple foul is absent.

We had two fouls by the same team, the second committed before the clock started following the first, and one of the attributes of a multiple foul (namely both fouling the same player) was absent. That seems like it fits the definition.

At least one could argue that it fits the definition.

What we actually did is got together, made an determination as to which foul happened first, and went with that one. I believe that was the correct thing to do since one of the fouls had to have happened first, which created dead ball (there was no shot, nor act of shooting). And once the ball is dead, the second foul is ignored since it was neither intentional nor flagrant.

Agree or disagree?

[Adam]

Agree, nice job. No sense in compounding the issue.

[Nevadaref]

You realize that if you had chosen to penalize them both, you would have had a triple foul.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

You realize that if you had chosen to penalize them both, you would have had a triple foul.

Huh? Meaning the two on the floor and the one on the coach?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Huh? Meaning the two on the floor and the one on the coach?

Yep.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Yep.

True dat. He was a little tightly wound at that point in the game.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Boys JV tonight. I have an off-ball foul against white at the same time my partner whistles a on-ball foul against white. Looking through the list in 4-19 of some of the more exotic fouls, the closest fit is the very exotic-sounding false multiple foul.

ART. 11 . . . A multiple foul is a situation in which two or more teammates commit personal fouls against the same opponent at approximately the same time.

ART. 12 . . . A false multiple foul is a situation in which there are two or more fouls by the same team and the last foul is committed before the clock is started following the first, and at least one of the attributes of a multiple foul is absent.

We had two fouls by the same team, the second committed before the clock started following the first, and one of the attributes of a multiple foul (namely both fouling the same player) was absent. That seems like it fits the definition.

At least one could argue that it fits the definition.

What we actually did is got together, made an determination as to which foul happened first, and went with that one. I believe that was the correct thing to do since one of the fouls had to have happened first, which created dead ball (there was no shot, nor act of shooting). And once the ball is dead, the second foul is ignored since it was neither intentional nor flagrant.

Agree or disagree?

I'd say your sitch fit the definition of a false multiple foul, not an exotic foul. To have an exotic foul, I think there has to be either a pineapple or a little umbrella or a palm tree involved. That being said, what you did was the politic and pragmatic thing to do.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

I'd say your sitch fit the definition of a false multiple foul, not an exotic foul. To have an exotic foul, I think there has to be either a pineapple or a little umbrella or a palm tree involved. That being said, what you did was the politic and pragmatic thing to do.

If the game was at the Playboy Mansion then BITS would have had an erotic foul.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If the game was at the Playboy Mansion then BITS would have had an erotic foul.

Good point. I hadn't considered that this might have been a typo.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If the game was at the Playboy Mansion then BITS would have had an erotic foul.

If the game was at the sewage disposal plant, BITS would have had a fragrant foul.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If the game was at the Playboy Mansion then BITS would have had an erotic foul.

If the game was played in a pyschiatrist's office, BITS would have had a neurotic foul.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

To have an exotic foul, I think there has to be either a pineapple or a little umbrella or a palm tree involved.

Or a chicken sitting under a palm tree drinking a MaiTai with a little umbrella in it from a pineapple....

[Striker991]

You basketball guys crack me up...us baseball guys only get this creative in the off-season.

S

[refnrev]

We're bored! There's been a break, remember. Actually, many of our esteemed members are this "creative" all the time. Kind of frightening isn't it!

[mplagrow]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

You realize that if you had chosen to penalize them both, you would have had a triple foul.

I believe that the triple foul might just be the least common multiple foul. Sorry, couldn't resist. I used to teach math.