Bob Knight's Latest

[Adam]

I'm not from Iniana, I'm from Iowa. I was happy to see Knight leave the Hoosiers for selfish reasons. I do respect what he's done. Yeah, he's a hard-headed jerk, but he lays it all out on the table. I can appreciate brutal honesty. Would I want him babysitting my 6 year old daughter (or son)? Absolutely not. Would I want him coaching my 20 year old son? Yes.

[JRutledge]

Whether you think the man is a jerk is more about you than him. First of all he has never been a jerk to me. Secondly the people that say he is a jerk are often people in the media who comments about the same stupid stuff as we talk about when Billy Packer opens his mouth or many other commentators give an opinion about something they know nothing about. I think Bobby Knight is one of the few coaches that challenge the media and the media does everything to try to blow out of proportion things he does. For one most media people never played a single minute of college basketball or any sport in HS, but for some reason because they want an interview, all sports figures are supposed to help make their jobs easier by telling them something they already know by what they saw. I just watched a Michigan team stick up the Rose Bowl in person and I do not need Lloyd Carr to tell me what happen. I already saw what happen. But if you do not give an interview to the right reporter as a player or coach, I am a bad guy. Give me a break.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I just watched a Michigan team stink up the Rose Bowl in person and I do not need Lloyd Carr to tell me what happen. I already saw what happen.

Peace

And if I recollect correctly, didn't you say you would be in Pasadena? How bad did it really smell?

[mbyron]

I don't like Knight, because his misbehavior (which seems to be great entertainment) sets such a bad example for the 99% of coaches who will never coach in the pros or college.

[mplagrow]

JRut, I don't need anybody in the media to tell me that BK did or didn't strike a player or throw a chair. Your routine of taking the oppositional side and attempting to put a politically correct spin on a fairly obvious situation grows tiresome.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by mplagrow

JRut, I don't need anybody in the media to tell me that BK did or didn't strike a player or throw a chair. Your routine of taking the oppositional side and attempting to put a politically correct spin on a fairly obvious situation grows tiresome.

If you do not like the positions I take, then you know where the door is. I also feel a lot of people are influenced by what the media tells them whether it is about Bob Knight or the ability of officials during a particular game. If you do not like those positions, then do not post here, go away and you will never have to worry about the positions I take or the reasons I take them.

Peace

[mplagrow]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If you do not like the positions I take, then you know where the door is. I also feel a lot of people are influenced by what the media tells them whether it is about Bob Knight or the ability of officials during a particular game. If you do not like those positions, then do not post here, go away and you will never have to worry about the positions I take or the reasons I take them.

Peace

You know, JRut, for someone who's signoff line is "Peace," you often take a brow-beating stance. I think I'm entitled to disagree with you and even roll my eyes once in a while without being told to leave. Tell you what, from now on I'll just praise your unique insight. Can I stay now?

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'm not from Iniana, I'm from Iowa. I was happy to see Knight leave the Hoosiers for selfish reasons.

I thought he was fired!

I do respect what he's done. Yeah, he's a hard-headed jerk, but he lays it all out on the table. I can appreciate brutal honesty. Would I want him babysitting my 6 year old daughter (or son)? Absolutely not. Would I want him coaching my 20 year old son? Yes.

I agree with this, but sometimes, brutally honest is too honest, imo. The same can be accomplished thru lesser means. Dean Smith for example.

What I find most displeasureable about Knight which is often overlooked, is how he treats his peers or other college administrative personnel. When you add that in to his on-the-court behavior, this is not something to be desired. I know what Knight is allowed to get away with, others, especially minorities, would be fired the next day, and this guy is still coaching! That's incredible, and you want to give him an award, wow! I'm concerned our society has no morals anymore. ESPN will give Hitler an award if he won this many games. What a disgrace!!!!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Old School

I thought he was fired!

I didn't imply otherwise. I simply said I was happy for selfish reasons.

Originally Posted by Old School

What I find most displeasureable about Knight which is often overlooked, is how he treats his peers or other college administrative personnel.

Overlooked by whom? It's discussed constantly when his name gets brought up.

Originally Posted by Old School

When you add that in to his on-the-court behavior, this is not something to be desired. I know what Knight is allowed to get away with, others, especially minorities, would be fired the next day, and this guy is still coaching! That's incredible, and you want to give him an award, wow!

And there have been examples of minority coaches who get away with the same type of behavior. The key factor hasn't been skin color, but success levels. All kinds of white coaches would have been fired for Knight's behavior as well.

Originally Posted by Old School

ESPN will give Hitler an award if he won this many games. What a disgrace!!!!

Seriously, you're comparing Knight to Hitler? Seriously? "Hyperbole" just doesn't do this justice.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Old School

I thought he was fired!

I agree with this, but sometimes, brutally honest is too honest, imo. The same can be accomplished thru lesser means. Dean Smith for example.

What I find most displeasureable about Knight which is often overlooked, is how he treats his peers or other college administrative personnel. When you add that in to his on-the-court behavior, this is not something to be desired. I know what Knight is allowed to get away with, others, especially minorities, would be fired the next day, and this guy is still coaching! That's incredible, and you want to give him an award, wow! I'm concerned our society has no morals anymore. ESPN will give Hitler an award if he won this many games. What a disgrace!!!!

It usually takes a lot longer in a discussion for Godwin's Law to apply.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

It usually takes a lot longer in a discussion for Godwin's Law to apply.

Not the first time Old School has reset the bar.

[Old School]

Okay, maybe Hitler a bit of a stretch, but ESPN would still give him an award if he won this many games. You get the point. Don't know very many minorities coaches that get to keep their job for doing some of the stuff that Knight has done. It damn near took an act of god to get Indiana to release him.

Not trying to make this a racial issue, but creditability speaking. Knight should not be anymore honored for breaking this record than Barry Bonds if he breaks the record. I guess this puts ESPN in a tough position. By there nature, they would have too, whether they like it or not. It sells, so we will cover it.

[mplagrow]

Originally Posted by Old School

Knight should not be anymore honored for breaking this record than Barry Bonds if he breaks the record. I guess this puts ESPN in a tough position. By there nature, they would have too, whether they like it or not. It sells, so we will cover it.

No, if it's SPORTS NEWS, they will cover it. Like it or not, BK's 880 win is news. Should they ignore it because he's not everybody's choice for Man of the Year? I don't care for the guy, but what he did is newsworthy.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Old School

Don't know very many minorities coaches that get to keep their job for doing some of the stuff that Knight has done.

How about John Chaney at Temple? He sent out a goon to injure an opponent. And his player did just that. And Chaney admitted it.

Using your logic.....

Naw, forget it. I just got a headache thinking of that.

You're bringing race into something that has got nothing to do with race. That's an old trick too.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

How about Don Chaney at Temple? He sent out a goon to injure an opponent. And his player did just that. And Chaney admitted it.

You're bringing race into something that has got nothing to do with race. That's an old trick too.

Hold the phone big time! John Chaney was fired the next season. If it was me, it would have been the next game. I'm outraged he got to finish the season. Race got nothing to do with it. Like the guy said, it's NEWS, and unfortunately, some people that are not deserving of the coverage, get it anyway.