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Rational Opinion
HawkEyeCubP: Although I disagree with you regarding the earring worn during warmups, I really like the "style" of your post. You start out by indicating that this is your opinion, not a directive from the ghost of Dr. Naismith, you offer complete rule citations, so I don't have to go into the next room, get out my official's bag, and get my Rule Book, and you offer further rule citations that clarify rule citations that you've already offered. Not only that, you seem to offer the members of the Forum information, in the form of rule citations and opinions, in a rational, completely non-judgemental way, no name calling, no put downs.
Like many others on this Forum, I've missed Chuck. I don't think that he can be replaced, but you, and a few others, have come real close. Please keep on contributing to this Forum. I look forward to your future threads and posts. |
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More of my opinion:
Jurassic - Thank you for the Case Play. I see where I'm wrong regarding the earring example (and therefore, logically, anything safety related). But I'm sticking to my guns on the uniform stuff.
To go along with JimGolf's point - I've included the only times the uniform rules refer to either "team members" or "players." They are as follows: 3-3-14 The American flag may be worn on the team shirt provided it does not exceed 2 x 3 inches and does not interfere with the visibility of the player's number. 3-3-15 A team jersey designed to be worn inside the pants/skirt shall be tucked inside the pants/skirt and the pants/skirt shall be above the hips and worn properly. A player not conforming to this uniform policy shall be directed to leave the game. A team member shall not remove the jersey and/or pants/skirt in the visual confines of the playing area. See 10-3-7h and 10-4-1h for penalty. Going along with 4-34 (def. of "player"), the first two places above where "player" is used should, then, only be enforced when they are actually players, and not simply team members, logically. And I can use this logic because I don't live in the state Jurassic mentioned. ![]() |
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Have any of you walk in the hallways at a high school recently? You would be hard pressed to find a dozen males with their shirts tucked in. 30 years ago, you would have not seen a dozen with their shirts hanging out.
The rule is going to continue to be a nag at us officials until the style changes again. If we make players tuck there jerseys in, should we make officials use some sort of strapping device for their whistle? Holding the whistle in their hand is a style, trend, whatever ... just like kids and the way they wear their clothes. |
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The NCHSAA requires us to enforce the shirt tuck rule during warm-ups. The rule reads, "A team jersey designed to be worn inside the pants/skirt shall be tucked inside the pants/skirt and the pants/skirt shall be above the hips and worn properly." It does not say "during the game," it does not say "player." Just because the next statement explains what to do during the game, that doesn't mean that it doesn't apply before the game.
If you or your state association chooses to interpret the rule to mean during the game only, great. But the way the rule is worded, it can certainly be interpreted to mean the jersey must be tucked when the participant is on the court. Choose how you want to interpret but don't be critical because someone else interprets it differently. It's not that big of a deal. Before anyone asks, I couldn't care less what happens while they're sitting on the bench. But when they're on the floor, it needs to be tucked. If he comes to the table, it'd better be tucked, otherwise he's not coming in. For me, the NFHS doesn't want jewelry or a baseball cap being worn during warm-ups, so why wouldn't they want everyone properly equipped in all facets during warm-ups? I really don't see the big fuss. It's preventive officiating. I've never run into a problem asking a someone to tuck in his/her jersey during warm-ups. In fact, every time I've ever had a coach hear the request, he/she has back me 100%. Start it before the game and you won't have a problem during the game. I'm done. EDIT: BillyMac, turn on your private messaging.
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I as well would NOT give a delay of game warning. Just throw that issue in the pre-game and it'll be taken care of! |
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We are also told: • Mouth protectors must be worn in all practices and games. This includes pre-season scrimmages, jamborees as well as the state tournament. • Mouth protectors are required of all participants at all levels of interscholastic competition (Freshman, Junior Varsity, Varsity). Administration on the Court: • In the event a player intentionally participates without a mouthguard, the game official will require that the player be replaced at the next dead ball whistle. The removed player may not re-enter until after the clock has started and a substitution opportunity occurs. I do not require mouth guards to be worn during warm up. Most players wear them, although many tuck them under their shirt strap until they are playing. |
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It has not been further clarified by the MIAA nor by my association interpreter. I take the language to mean "while the ball is live" and not during warmups. I know it also says they must be worn in practice....but that is obviously up to the coach, not the official. |
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I'm kinda surpised that the MIAA didn't clarify it like N.C. did. It's a whole bunch easier on all officials if you can get a uniform ruling to apply. |
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