Official interference

[JugglingReferee]

As much as I dislike this ruling, there is nothing the crew can do.

However, the official did screw up and allow himself to become an unnecessary part of the game.

[johnSandlin]

I had this exact play happen to me in my game last Friday night. I was the official who got in the way of a steal, and caused the ball handler to have to reroute his path going the other way.

The defender who had the ball stolen from him lost out the most. He pretty much had to come to a stop to avoid running into me.

It was completely my fault, no question about it. But rule wise, there was nothing I could do either as I was inbounds to far, and part of the floor.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

As much as I dislike this ruling, there is nothing the crew can do.

However, the official did screw up and allow himself to become an unnecessary part of the game.

I don't buy this.

The official is a necessary part of the game. Sometimes good positioning means you're at risk to get in the way. If you occasionally gets in the way of play then that's life.

It it happens more often then you should consider what needs to be done to fix it.

[buckrog64]

clarification: the entire scenario took place in bounds. The ref was 3-5 feet inbounds from the sideline, the contact took place there, near mid-court...everyone and everything stayed in bounds, the ref simply blew the whistle and the play dead because of the player running into him.

He drew more hoots from the fans of course, than the players or the coaches. They know stuff like that is going to happen once in awhile.

I personally hug the sideline for the most part, because i don't want to get into the way. I would imagine, however, that most people in the gym expected that the play would be blown dead and that it would transpire as it did when in actuality, the game should not have been allowed to stop.

[NICK]

As far as I can see, technically the play should not be stopped, but I applaud his handling of the situation by blaming himself for the incident. I am sure that this has happened to countless officials including myself and this is a reaction call, inadvertant whistle, whatever and is part of the learning process. I am sure that in his next game that he would stand clear well off the players. Cheers- Nick

[Nevadaref]

While all of us agree that according to the rules play should not have been stopped, but once this official blew his whistle and it was, he correctly applied the POI rule for an accidental whistle.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by NICK

As far as I can see, technically the play should not be stopped, but I applaud his handling of the situation by blaming himself for the incident. I am sure that this has happened to countless officials including myself and this is a reaction call, inadvertant whistle, whatever and is part of the learning process. I am sure that in his next game that he would stand clear well off the players. Cheers- Nick

Nick,

Let me get this right you are applauding him for doing the wrong thing and and giving the ball to the wrong team? Great!

[tjones1]

Sorry for the misunderstanding buck. So, yes we all agree it shouldn't have been blown dead. Therefore, an inadvertant whistle means POI (as Nevada said).

and since there's no control we've got an AP.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tjones1

Sorry for the misunderstanding buck. So, yes we all agree it shouldn't have been blown dead. Therefore, an inadvertant whistle means POI (as Nevada said) and since there's no control we've got an AP.

After a steal, there is team control. Give the ball back to the stealing (?) team after the IW; no AP.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by NICK

As far as I can see, technically the play should not be stopped, but I applaud his handling of the situation by blaming himself for the incident.

And what happens when the same thing happens in a game next week and the official doesn;t do the same thing as this bozo did?

Originally Posted by tjones1

Sorry for the misunderstanding buck. So, yes we all agree it shouldn't have been blown dead. Therefore, an inadvertant whistle means POI (as Nevada said) and since there's no control we've got an AP.

Are you trying to tell us that there's no team control in this play?

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

And what happens when the same thing happens in a game next week and the official doesn;t do the same thing as this bozo did?



Are you trying to tell us that there's no team control in this play?

Nope. My fault...

[buckrog64]

Rich: Point well taken and understood, and while I tend to hug the sideline, I'm not married or conjoined to it. You can be just as 'in the way' anywhere on the floor.

[bigdogrunnin]

Had a game early in the year. Var. Girls. I am in trail (2-person), and a quick steal by the defense. I am about 6-8 feet onto the floor. The ball goes toward the sideline nearest to me. I am thinking it will go out, so I work toward the sideline to get a clear view of the OOB. WELL . . . yep, defense manages to get the ball and there I am IN THE WAY of a clear path and an easy layup. So I buck up and turn tail and haul a$$ to get down the floor. Problem . . . the defensive player (now on offense) is a STATE qualifying sprinter, and . . . let's just say I am NOT! I hustled down, but she had to pull up and wait for her teammates, because I was in the way. The entire gym got a great laugh, and the head coach gave me some good humored ribbing, but hey, it is what it is. An official is PART OF THE FLOOR! You don't want to be in the way, but sometimes it happens. Did blowing the whistle get that official out of a bad spot, yes. Did he properly apply the rules, no. Don't blow the whistle and play on.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by buckrog64

clarification: the entire scenario took place in bounds. The ref was 3-5 feet inbounds from the sideline, the contact took place there, near mid-court...everyone and everything stayed in bounds, the ref simply blew the whistle and the play dead because of the player running into him.

He drew more hoots from the fans of course, than the players or the coaches. They know stuff like that is going to happen once in awhile.

I personally hug the sideline for the most part, because i don't want to get into the way. I would imagine, however, that most people in the gym expected that the play would be blown dead and that it would transpire as it did when in actuality, the game should not have been allowed to stop.

If you hug the sidelines when working 2-person where responsibilities take you all the way across the court (or even 3-person, where you have 60% of the floor) you're not doing a very good job of working the trail position.

I get in the way once or twice a year and usually it's on a quick steal. Shrug.