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Old Thu Dec 21, 2006, 09:16am
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Why would this make a difference? It doesn't. Or did you post this part just to show they were inexperienced.
Bingo.....
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Old Thu Dec 21, 2006, 09:18am
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While the officials can choose to use the rule to declare a forfeit, I think they did the right thing by asking the coach to leave.
I agree. Both 10.5 and 5.4.1 say that officials "may" forfeit the game for non-compliance. I was trained that forfeit is the nuclear option and to avoid it whenever possible.
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Old Thu Dec 21, 2006, 09:38am
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This happened in an area game last night. JV Coach is tossed & refuses to leave the gym. AD turtles and cannot be found. JV official goes to the coach who is seated in the bleachers and orders him out of the gym. He comes back and is standing in the doorway. JV Official tells him to leave the building. Which he finally does.
For those who have said that they wouldn't forfeit the game.

I would have considered forfeiting it when the coach first refused to leave the gym. I definitely would have forfeited it when he came back!

There is no reason to put up with this idiot. He is just trying to show up inexperienced officials during a JV game.

There is no better way to call attention to his poor behavior and force the state association to deal with him than to forfeit the game.
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Old Thu Dec 21, 2006, 10:01am
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For those who have said that they wouldn't forfeit the game.
For the record, put me in that group too. I wouldn't dream of forfeiting the game unless the coach refused to leave the doorway after being warned to leave.
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Old Thu Dec 21, 2006, 11:52am
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Forfeit . . . absolutely the last and final option. The coach finally left, let the kids play. As for bringing up experience vs. inexperience . . . it doesn't matter. An official on the floor, IS the authority. They say go, you go. No questions. Let the association sort it out if they must.

Sounds like these two handled the situation intelligently, and will certainly learn from the experience. Let's hope that the coach does too.
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Old Thu Dec 21, 2006, 12:05pm
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For the record, put me in that group too. I wouldn't dream of forfeiting the game unless the coach refused to leave the doorway after being warned to leave.
What if he pops his head in the door on the other side two minutes later?
How many times are we going to ask him to leave only to see him come back before we forfeit. He'd already left once and came back. Not saying I would have forfeited, but I'm coming pretty close when he stands in the doorway.
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Old Thu Dec 21, 2006, 12:16pm
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What if he pops his head in the door on the other side two minutes later?
How many times are we going to ask him to leave only to see him come back before we forfeit. He'd already left once and came back. Not saying I would have forfeited, but I'm coming pretty close when he stands in the doorway.
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt once for not knowing that he can't be anywhere within the visual confines of the court. It's still going on the report though that he had been caught peeking in the door.

If I can get the game in for the players, I'll try to do so. But only so far.
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Old Thu Dec 21, 2006, 11:08pm
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Our interpreter said the guy could be on the varsity bench. But he's gone for the next 2 games. I have him in his 1st game back.

Thanks for all the replies. My partner that night is unpatched. I plan to have him come early to do a pre-game whether he likes it or not.
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All of this would be in the report and I would let the state organization take care of it.

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