The "And 1"

[SmokeEater]

If its a foul, ITS A FOUL. Make the call and be CONSISTANT.

There is nothing I hate more then having to say to a coach that the ball went in so we no called it at your end but the exact same contact at the other end gets called because your opponent missed his shot.

Actually I have never had to do this but would really not like to either.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by SmokeEater

If its a foul, ITS A FOUL. Make the call and be CONSISTANT.

While true, this tautology is unhelpful advice to someone trying to determine whether it's a foul.

Originally Posted by SmokeEater

There is nothing I hate more then having to say to a coach that the ball went in so we no called it at your end but the exact same contact at the other end gets called because your opponent missed his shot.

Actually I have never had to do this but would really not like to either.

This doesn't make sense to me. If it were the exact same contact, the shot would have gone in. The fact that the shot was missed shows that it was NOT the exact same contact.

[SmokeEater]

Not necessarily. A lucky bouce on the rim and in it goes or one player just is able to play through the contact. Still same contact just different result.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by mbyron

This doesn't make sense to me. If it were the exact same contact, the shot would have gone in. The fact that the shot was missed shows that it was NOT the exact same contact.

Now this doesn't make sense at all.

Why assume 2 different players react the same to contact?
Why assume both players shot the ball exactly the same way?

[ChrisSportsFan]

Originally Posted by mbyron

While true, this tautology is unhelpful advice to someone trying to determine whether it's a foul.



This doesn't make sense to me. If it were the exact same contact, the shot would have gone in. The fact that the shot was missed shows that it was NOT the exact same contact.

Why not? It was 2 different shooters on 2 different shots from 2 different spots.