The "And 1"

[lukealex]

Originally Posted by BEAREF

Or you will call a foul when the shot doesn't go in and NOTHING if the shot is made? A foul is foul...call it!

Haha that what I meant. Woops

[FrankHtown]

Not all contact is a foul.

[lukealex]

Originally Posted by FrankHtown

Not all contact is a foul.

Yes, but this isn't the topic at hand. If contact is a foul on a missed shot, why is the same contact not a foul on a made shot?

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by lukealex

Yes, but this isn't the topic at hand. If contact is a foul on a missed shot, why is the same contact not a foul on a made shot?

Couldn't be the exact same contact. Do you understand advantage/disadvantage?

As I understand the point: obvious fouls should be called. Borderline fouls should be called depending on advantage/disadvantage. That is: if the foul prevents the shot/basket, then call it. Otherwise, don't slow down the game.

[lukealex]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Couldn't be the exact same contact. Do you understand advantage/disadvantage?

As I understand the point: obvious fouls should be called. Borderline fouls should be called depending on advantage/disadvantage. That is: if the foul prevents the shot/basket, then call it. Otherwise, we're just slowing down the game.

Of course I understand advantage/disadvantage, do you? I also agree with Nevada, but the first post implies a foul that should be called won't be called if the shot is made.

Yes, it could be the exact same contact.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by lukealex

Of course I understand advantage/disadvantage, do you? I also agree with Nevada, but the first post implies a foul that should be called won't be called if the shot is made.

Yes, it could be the exact same contact.

You might be misreading the original post: see the "unless" clause.

I'm not sure what the poster means by "unnecessary" contact, but a charitable reading would use this to mark the distinction between obvious and borderline fouls.

That would make the OP consistent with the advice to call all obvious fouls (regardless of what happens to the shot), but leave the borderline fouls unless they disadvantage the shooter.

And, by "it couldn't be the same contact," I meant that the exact same contact in borderline fouls cannot both block the shot and allow it to go in. There's either disadvantage, or there isn't.

[JRutledge]

There is always going to be some contact in the game of basket. You cannot call everything a foul.

Peace

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by FrankHtown

Not all contact is a foul.

No, it's not. But a foul is not determined by whether a round ball goes through a medal hoop or not. If I'm wrong, plus reference the rule so I can read it.

[FrankHtown]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

No, it's not. But a foul is not determined by whether a round ball goes through a medal hoop or not. If I'm wrong, plus reference the rule so I can read it.

I'm not sure I said anything about whether it had to go through the hoop or not.