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Penalize Insanity 2 !
Friday watching a two man crew work reserve before the Varsity -
4 minutes into the game the head coach team A is at the table screaming at the officials trying to get his attention about the AP arrow being wrong, (It isn't) they ignore him the ball comes up the court on the next possession and he is chewing on the official about blowing the AP arrow - and he needs to stop the game and give them the ball back. OOB underneath the basket and the coach is on the floor and in the officials face as timeout is called by team B. The official stops signs the coach and moves out. Play goes on and the next tie up this caoch is telling them that the ball goes the other way because they SCREWED the POOCH on that call in first part of the game (everybody in the gym hears) and at evey subsequest tie up he has something to say also. At half time one of our crew asks - Why haven't they lit this guy up? Well if you T up a coach in this league you won't get any post season votes. Guess I am not going to get any votes - 2 minutes into the game I have a block charge on the sideline in front of team A's bench the defender was out of bounds - after I explain to the head coach why it was a block - the Team A assistant " That Call sucked"  I hope he enjoys his two game suspension from the state of Indiana.  Why are people not taking care of business? 
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Mon Dec 11, 2006, 11:56am
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Mon Dec 11, 2006, 01:17pm
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An ejection in Indiana carries a one-game suspension penalty.
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Mon Dec 11, 2006, 01:33pm
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Way to take care of business. I look at the post-season as something I have very little control over so I don't get all riled up about it. I work a very good regular season schedule and I feel like I get those games because of my ability as an official. I don't want worrying about offending the wrong person creeping in my head and making me know call the game the way it should be called, but that's just me.
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Mon Dec 11, 2006, 01:52pm
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I would rather talk a coach out of the technical and allow him the opportunity to "professionally and courteously" address his concerns with us. When he believes that there is a working relationship and that I will listen to him, A LOT of those "technical" problems seem to just go away! If that means that I am not "taking care of business," then I guess I am one of those officials that would bother you.
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Mon Dec 11, 2006, 01:59pm
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Mon Dec 11, 2006, 02:03pm
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So what part of the OP do you consider to be "professional and courteous"??? I'm thinking that if you let a coach yell "You screwed the pooch" at you, then you are part of the problem rather than part of the solution...if I am misreading what you are saying, then I apologize - but I don't think I am misreading it...
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Mon Dec 11, 2006, 02:12pm
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Donnee Gray who is a final four official and assigner for Maryland JUCO once told us that he can't give an official the courage to call a technical foul, but he can work with an official (to reduce the number) who calls a lot of technical fouls. If this story went the way the OP is saying, this coach probably should have been tossed.
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Mon Dec 11, 2006, 02:21pm
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When I start being overly concerned about my ratings, I'll quit and retire my whistle for good. The game is about the kids, not whether you get any postseason votes. IF you know you are right, whack him, tell him you know you are correct, let him watch the tape and then eat crow. He/she will respect you more the next time, rather than you taking abuse and not having the b@lls to do the right thing!
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Mon Dec 11, 2006, 04:08pm
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Jessie I guess it is one from the state and one from the school Sorry
Big Ddog - If I can talk to a coach I will - in fact I did - The head coach and I had no problem, however this moroon is the assistant coach who is standing up loking me in the eye and making a comment of a somewhat negative manner directly to me. At any level I work - Munchkins through NCAA - that type of action is going to get an assistant Whacked for sure and as you can see at the varsity level and up they are probably going to get tossed. (I have to admit that history made that decision in this case.) How this guy made it through the Jv game is beyond me standing at the table screaming about a call is an automatic Whack - he is out of the box or off the bench how ever your state does it and is expressing displeasure with a call - he continues as he holds the ball and delays the game while he gives you some more of his already depleted brain matter before giving you the ball back. Where do you think talking is going to make things better. There is a time to talkk and a time to WHACK - When it is time get it out and use it - It will make your life so much better in the long run. By the way if you start penalizing the insantity on a consistatnt basis it will go away!
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Mon Dec 11, 2006, 04:18pm
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Totally agree on the Assistant Coaches point! I don't listen to Assistant Coaches. They can coach, period. I communicate with the Head Coach. If the Asst. was complaining, then you are right. Tweet! Technical Foul. Coach, you have lost your coaching box privileges. Shoot 'em, and lets move on.
Best wishes for the rest of the season though. I hope none of us has to give any more technical fouls for the remainder of the year.  - Riiiiggghhhtttt!!
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Mon Dec 11, 2006, 04:01pm
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Rocky and Tome,
Nowhere did I say that the original poster had said the coach was professional and courteous, I said as long as the coach is, then I am more than willing to work with them. Sometimes it IS our job to get a coach to calm down and focus on the game. It may not be a part we necessarily LIKE, but it comes with the territory. In the original post, it would seem this coach needed some "technical" guidance, but what was done early in the game that allowed it to get out of hand? Could good game management have prevented this? I don't know. I merely pointed out my take on "technical fouls," and how I prefer to handle coaches. Interesting enough, that has been my ding the past 3-4 years, because I WILL give a technical foul if a coach is not professional and courteous. In fact, it is one reason our local board decided to "hold me back" from getting Varsity games. Oh well . . . It forced me to become a better communicator, and my working relationships with coaches have never been better.
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Mon Dec 11, 2006, 02:05pm
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