excessively swinging arms/elbows w/ out contact

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter

Who can explain it?
Who can tell you why?
Fools give you reasons,
Wise men . . . never try..

Thank you Mark for that very helpful and informative little bit of doggerel.

I can see that it's consistent with that other rule dyad, a violation by team A takes away the arrow, but a foul by team A doesn't. But on free throws, the ball is dead immediately if team A violates or fouls either one, right? Where's the consistency in that?