She "kicked" it, and then I kicked it

[Adam]

The rule says "intentionally strike the ball." Most interpret "strike" to include any movement of the leg with the intent of touching the ball. Now, in my situation, before the ball was trapped, it actually bounced of one leg.

[mick]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The rule says "intentionally strike the ball." Most interpret "strike" to include any movement of the leg with the intent of touching the ball. Now, in my situation, before the ball was trapped, it actually bounced of one leg.

Snaqwells,
Do you remember what her hands were doing at the time of the trap?
Was she clumsy? Was she redirecting the ball? Did she merely mis-field the grounder?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mick

Snaqwells,
Do you remember what her hands were doing at the time of the trap?
Was she clumsy? Was she redirecting the ball? Did she merely mis-field the grounder?

I do. I had a great view. She was in the process of reach down to grab it when her knees moved together. It wasn't an awkward movement; more like a hockey goalie pinching his legs together to prevent the puck from going through. She looked down, squeezed her knees to trap it, reached to grab the ball, and passed it.

[mick]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I do. I had a great view. She was in the process of reach down to grab it when her knees moved together. It wasn't an awkward movement; more like a hockey goalie pinching his legs together to prevent the puck from going through. She looked down, squeezed her knees to trap it, reached to grab the ball, and passed it.

Thanks, Snaq.
Even more clearly now, I do not think think she intentionally kicked the ball.

[blindzebra]

Using your leg(s) to gain an advantage is a kick...it doesn't have to be a violent striking to be a kick.

Let's say the ball is loose on the floor with 3 players still on their feet trying to grab it, when one player uses their foot to move the ball closer to them to grab...gonna call that a kick?

I see no difference between a subtle little "kick" like that and pulling the ball in or trapping it with your legs, so you can grab it.

[mick]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

Using your leg(s) to gain an advantage is a kick...it doesn't have to be a violent striking to be a kick.

Let's say the ball is loose on the floor with 3 players still on their feet trying to grab it, when one player uses their foot to move the ball closer to them to grab...gonna call that a kick?

I see no difference between a subtle little "kick" like that and pulling the ball in or trapping it with your legs, so you can grab it.

Surely, I have a kick on that.
Yet incidentally trapping the ball with her legs, when her hands failed her, still doesn't feel like an intentional kick.
But it may be.

[Adam]

Her hands didn't fail. They couldn't get to the floor quickly enough, so she purposefully used her legs to trap the ball and buy herself some time.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mick

Thanks, Snaq.
Even more clearly now, I do not think think she intentionally kicked the ball.

Apparently, my whistle agreed with you.

[Kelvin green]

Basketball is played with the hands not the feet, other wise we would be playing the other football

Violation

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The rule says "intentionally strike the ball." Most interpret "strike" to include any movement of the leg with the intent of touching the ball. Now, in my situation, before the ball was trapped, it actually bounced of one leg.

I know it's the wrong forum, but to steal from the football forum, "touching" precedes "catching," which also makes tremendous sense, and this logic could theoretically be applied here. And I've also had the NCAA situation read to me that was cited above, and think it makes pretty good sense and is clearly applicable in the OP situation.