Free Throw

[Zoochy]

Has anyone call Disconcerting the Free Thrower (9-1-5)? If so, then what was the action that was worth calling the violation?

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

Has anyone call Disconcerting the Free Thrower (9-1-5)? If so, then what was the action that was worth calling the violation?

Yup.

Unnecessary talking that started just as the player releases. Warning was given first, too.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

Has anyone call Disconcerting the Free Thrower (9-1-5)? If so, then what was the action that was worth calling the violation?

Yep, last year I called it. The opponent was in the top free throw lane and clapped his hands just before the shooter was getting ready to shoot.

Edit: Just to clairfy, it wasn't the "top" space. He was in the "top" legal space for the defense.

[Nevadaref]

Yes, and last season it was even a POE!

2005-06 POINTS OF EMPHASIS
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2. Free Throws.
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C. Disconcertion. Free-throw disconcertion must be carefully monitored. Of particular concern is when the free throw will become dead (first of two or first two of three). Defensive players often employ tactics which serve no other purpose than to disconcert the shooter during free throws ("boxing out" the free thrower off the free-throw line, waving arms, yelling instructions to teammates, etc.). Another increasing trend is opponents outside the arc saying things to the thrower. With team free-throw percentages hovering in the mid-60's on average, teams welcome a second chance free throw. They deserve it if disconcertion occurs and officials must call it.

[TimTaylor]

Yep. Another common one in addition to those already mentioned is arms raised and rapidly wiggling hands or fingers.

[Scrapper1]

Yelling "BOX OUT" during the first of two free throws.

Squeaking sneakers directly behind the free throw shooter.

[Junker]

I've talked to players about this, but I've never actually had to take care of it. Usually they knock it off after a conversation.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

Has anyone call Disconcerting the Free Thrower (9-1-5)? If so, then what was the action that was worth calling the violation?

When the game is on the line, there is a lot of sh!t talking going on in the F/T lane. I have made it a practice now to get very close to the shooter in these tense situations, otherwise I can't hear it from my normal position. Big disadvangate if they can raddle the shooter, I'm mean it's on inside that lane. I'll tell you something else to look for, especially in a close game. Defense huddles in the lane, when they walk out, somebody bumps the F/T shooter on the line. There's a lot of stuff to watch here!

I even had a coach, first time I've ever seen this, but the coach had a fit after the technical he recieved and was yelling instructions to his players while we where shooting the F/T's, 1st half, so it's in front of his bench, which IMO intimidated younger high school F/T shooter. Can't let that happen either.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Old School

I even had a coach, first time I've ever seen this, but the coach had a fit after the technical he recieved and was yelling instructions to his players while we where shooting the F/T's, 1st half, so it's in front of his bench, which IMO intimidated younger high school F/T shooter. Can't let that happen either.

Sooooooo......what did you do to the coach? And please cite the rule that allowed you to do whatever you did.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Sooooooo......what did you do to the coach? And please cite the rule that allowed you to do whatever you did.

In this case, I did nothing because it was the first time and after some thought, I realize that was a disadvantage and something I need to be on guard for (protect the shooter). Some coaches are sneaky and they do things to see if they can get over, to see if you're paying attention. Since I never had that happen b4, I will be honest, I was caught off guard, sort of like the 911 attack, but my eyes are open now and I'm sharing the experienced.

You won't find that anywhere in the book JR, but then again, knowing you, maybe not!

Peace

[Adam]

You're comparing a basketball game, and a coach's tactic, to 9-11?

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

You're comparing a basketball game, and a coach's tactic, to 9-11?

I was thinking the exact same thing. Try again, nOld School.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Old School

In this case, I did nothing because it was the first time and after some thought, I realize that was a disadvantage and something I need to be on guard for (protect the shooter). Some coaches are sneaky and they do things to see if they can get over, to see if you're paying attention. Since I never had that happen b4, I will be honest, I was caught off guard, sort of like the 911 attack, but my eyes are open now and I'm sharing the experienced.

You won't find that anywhere in the book JR, but then again, knowing you, maybe not!

Well, actually JMO, you will find language in the book to cover it. And there was a POE that told you what to do also.

Can you cite the NFHS rule and language re: disconcertion? There's a case play that might be relevant too. You never know; maybe it can be found in either or both of those.

I await your rules/casebook citations.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Well, actually JMO, you will find language in the book to cover it. And there was a POE that told you what to do also.

Can you cite the NFHS rule and language re: disconcertion? There's a case play that might be relevant too. You never know; maybe it can be found in either or both of those.

I await your rules/casebook citations.

I don't know who this JMO character is, but I told you, didn't I. I knew you would find something, bookworm (JR).

PS: Don't kill the messenger.....