Have you had to be the fashion police?

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Have done it several times with no reaction at all. At most, just a shrug.

Same here.

[Drizzle]

Just the other day I had two boys take off their white undershirts since they were wearing blue jerseys. I was the U and noticed them sitting on the bench, so I just told them to leave the court real fast at take them off. The coach smiled at me and said "I told them not to wear it."

I think the rules clinic they gave us was as specific as can get - I'll enforce it.

[deecee]

The coach smiled at me and said "I told them not to wear it."

wow -- unfortunately this is the lack of discipline I have noticed in the past 5-8 years. If I was that coach those kids would have been told to go home if I had told them to remove and they didnt. there are times and places for kids and coaches to debate and this is not one of them.

[legend]

I'm with you deecee, I also coach Little league baseball and even in practice I am the boss. I had kids show up in shorts and have sent them home to change. As a coach you must be firm and you'll get their respect!


As far as the new rule goes I don't see where we have the option to let them play without being in proper uniform. The new rule is in black and white. I wouldn't bring it up to the "R" just handle it and move on.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by deecee

wow -- unfortunately this is the lack of discipline I have noticed in the past 5-8 years. If I was that coach those kids would have been told to go home if I had told them to remove and they didnt. there are times and places for kids and coaches to debate and this is not one of them.

WOW -- interesting that you take such a strong stance on the discipline of the players listening to their coaches, but continue to advocate not enforcing the coaching box. Shouldn't the coaches be setting the example for the kids in the discipline arena and remain in the proper coaching area?

[deecee]

wow nevada way to be an a$$ -- one has nothing to do with the other. I spend 99% of my time focusing on the game and managing that. wether a coach has 6 feet to move around or 20 it is my job to manage him. Placing a restriction like that just doesnt fall under my list of top priorities and in life we only have so much time to accomplish so many things that we have to prioritize. JMO -- but 6 feet is just a random number that some guy or gal came up with -- the real issue is can you manage the coach in that space and if you can then I guarantee you can manage him in a 10 foot box.

The games I have worked the coaches have never abused the bench or the box and it has neve been an issue. If a coach is standing 1 foot out of the box or even 2 or 3 and hes just coaching and not being a jackass I DO NOT CARE. I have more pressing issues in a game than to even have to metion to a coach about the coaches box -- COACHES believe it or not know about how they should be and where they should be on the bench (for the most part -- the lower levels need a bit of work) but by the time you are at the varsity level a coach knows where he should be, knows when he is pushing the envelope, and knows when he deserves a T. Those that dont dont last long (unfortunatley a very small percentage does).

In all my camps and evaluations I have never had to be addressed on management why because I CAN MANAGE -- what I can manage is only to the extent to that which I have been exposed to. god i hate these soapbox replies but I guess I am just not as anal as many others.

[Ignats75]

Coach, Regarding the coach's box: If you're not talking to me, I'm not looking at you.

They get the message but I'm not worrying about it either.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by deecee

The games I have worked the coaches have never abused the bench or the box and it has neve been an issue. If a coach is standing 1 foot out of the box or even 2 or 3 and hes just coaching and not being a jackass I DO NOT CARE. I have more pressing issues in a game than to even have to metion to a coach about the coaches box -- COACHES believe it or not know about how they should be and where they should be on the bench ...

The NFHS has been excessively clear on this.

2005-06 POINTS OF EMPHASIS

D. Coaching box: The committee wants coaches to stay in the coaching box. There is a constant problem when coaches wander. It is a distinct advantage to the coach who is permitted to be out of the box because the coach has a better chance to communicate with his/her team. The coach can also influence play by being out on the court.
The rule is black-and-white, but it has not been dealt with properly. Most officials have not enforced the rule. The fact that the coach is not directing comments to the officials or is "coaching the team" has no bearing on rule enforcement. The coach who continually abuses the coaching-box rule risks having his or her governing body remove it completely. The official who doesn't enforce it runs the risk of not following what the governing body wants enforced.

[cmathews]

Originally Posted by Drizzle

The coach smiled at me and said "I told them not to wear it."

This drives me crazy...I saw a situation last year where a fellow official told a coach about some illegal equipment. The coach said, "can you tell him to take it off, he won't listen to me" I couldn't believe it...If I am the coach and the player won't listen to me, he won't get off the bench .....