Call it or not?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Ignats75

Arms crossed is the signal for both intentional and flagerant fouls.

Um, no. There is no approved signal for a flagrant foul, whether it's a personal or technical flagrant foul. The one most commonly used is the ol' umpire's heave-ho signal. The crossed-arms signal is for intentional fouls only.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Chess Ref

Can't find last years rulebook to look this up. What signal would I use for a flagrant personal foul ? What are the penaltys for personal flagrant fouls ?

As per post above, there is no official signal for a flagrant foul. You either verbalize it or you can give the beisbol umpire's heave-ho signal.
The penalty is always disqualification. If it's part of a double flagrant foul, no foul shots for either flagrant foul and go to the POI.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Junker

Adam! You're still around! Good to see you posting again. I agree. Tell the girl or the coach what she's doing wrong and then take care of it if they don't. Don't forget that you can call the elbow swinging a violation as well as a common and technical foul, but I'm sure you thought of that.

I thought about talking to the girl or the coach, but didn't see an opportunity. I should have probably made one and addressed it early. As it was, we didn't make the call until late in the third quarter. For whatever reason, my partner thought the rule only applies when there are opponents in the immediate vicinity.

As the new guy in town working with a ref who's been doing this for close to 40 years, I figured it wasn't the time to make waves or start a reputation as a "rules guy."

As always, it was a good situation to help me figure out how I'll deal with it at the varsity level.

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