8/10 panel ball

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I completely believe you. I would hope that someone has a lot more to worry about then what the specifics are on the basketball. If the rule does not care how many panels you have on the ball, then why worry about it (unless you are trying to win a bet or something like that). And for the record, you are not going to find any evidence in rulebooks since then that this requirement of panels ever existed.

Peace

Well, personally, if someone asks me about a legal ball, I tell 'em to look for a "29.5" and an "NFHS" on it. And if there ain't one around like that, which I have run into, then find one that's round, bounces and that both coaches agree is OK.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Well, personally, if someone asks me about a legal ball, I tell 'em to look for a "29.5" and an "NFHS" on it. And if there ain't one around like that, which I have run into, then find one that's round, bounces and that both coaches agree is OK.

I would say most of the time we use basketball that have neither of those marks on them. Guess what? We still play.

Peace

[Jimgolf]

If anyone cares, we've used the 10-panel basketballs in games and the players with smaller hands liked them, but most players didn't notice any difference.

You should have noticed when they were legalized in the rule book because Rawlings was one of the sponsors for that year's rule book and they had an offer in it to order one at a reasonable rate.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

And they smell like Dickens....

I'm a poet too.....

You are two poets
Who shouldn't show it

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Yup....Rainmaker.

Not me!! I said you were a "grunting flea-picking neanderthal". That is a reference to past time, not future. I wouldn't even care to guess where you'll spend your eternity.

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by Jimgolf

You should have noticed when they were legalized in the rule book because Rawlings was one of the sponsors for that year's rule book and they had an offer in it to order one at a reasonable rate.

Ya know, now that you mention it, I remember thinking..." huh, Rawlings just happens to have an exclusive ad in the rulebook that suddenly allows thier "new" ball."

That kinda sat wrong with me. Seemed to me that the NF was willing to drop an equipment rule as long as any mfg. was willing to pony up enough $$$ . Where is the NFHS headquaters? Washington D.C.? Anyone else remember that?

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

Ya know, now that you mention it, I remember thinking..." huh, Rawlings just happens to have an exclusive ad in the rulebook that suddenly allows thier "new" ball."

That kinda sat wrong with me. Seemed to me that the NF was willing to drop an equipment rule as long as any mfg. was willing to pony up enough $$$ . Where is the NFHS headquaters? Washington D.C.? Anyone else remember that?

For all the graft, corruption and back room dealing I've only seen the 10 panel ball a few times and never at a HS game. I don't mind this change, but I wouldn't want to see them legalize that rediculous looking international ball.

I noticed that the back cover of the new rule book has another Rawlings ball ad. Under the big "X" logo is stamped the word "TRUTH." What's that about?

Anybody else notice the one-legged girl on the front of the new book?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

I said you were a "grunting flea-picking neanderthal".

"Guilty, your Honor".

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Has anyone ever had to "throw out" a ball because it wasn't considered legal?

Yes, last season I rejected the ball that FIBA is using in the current WC tournament. It doesn't meet the color requirement of 1-12-1a.

[Nevadaref]

Ok, Rut, but while I'm pulling that stick out of my ***, you go pull your HEAD out of yours!
The original poster, oc, asked if there was a change in the rules a couple of year ago to legalize the 10-panel ball. You replied:

Originally Posted by JRutledge

There were no rules changes about the 10 panel ball.

That's been shown to be totally WRONG.

Then you wrote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The 2002-2003 does not say anything in the rulebook that says the amount of panels on a basketball.

Again, 100% WRONG. JR and I both quoted the rule from that season which specified eight panels. Just accept it, admit it, say it out loud if that helps.

But clearly you can't quite bring yourself to do that, so you take to throwing childish insults and writing the laughable:

Originally Posted by JRutledge

There might have been a change, but honestly I would not care about this change.

Who gives a rat's rear if you care about this or not. No one asked! OC obviously cares since he took the time to ask a question about it. So either give him the correct answer or SHUT UP. Once again we have a thread on this forum in which you have managed to make multiple posts without contributing a darn thing. If you don't know or don't care, is it really so hard for you to keep quiet?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Once again we have a thread on this forum in which you have managed to make multiple posts without contributing a darn thing.

Yeah......unlike myself and M&M, your resident raconteurs and poet laureates.

Want us to write a poem about it?

Legs are truly great
You can even ask my mutt
Because if you didn't have 'em
The ground would meet your butt.

- dedicated to Chuck.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Yeah......unlike myself and M&M, your resident raconteurs and poet laureates.

Want us to write a poem about it?

Legs are truly great
You can even ask my mutt
Because if you didn't have 'em
The ground would meet your butt.

- dedicated to Chuck.

Stop that rhyming and I mean it.
http://www.american-buddha.com/a3prin.77_small.jpg

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Yeah......unlike myself and M&M, your resident raconteurs and poet laureates.

Raconteur? I think I had to replace that on my car once...

Nevada, I'm not insinuating anything by this, other than just to say you are the first person I know to have ever disallowed a ball for use in a game. I would think 99.9% of all schools order "legal" balls, and I've never run across the issue of having to decide their legality. I have had a couple that have been in relatively used condition, and a simple check with the other coach verifies they don't really care - it's round and bounces, so let's play. The IHSA even mandates a specific brand of ball for post-season use (similar to the Fed. accepting Rawlings money for advertising in the rulebook), and I'll have to admit it's not on my radar in the pre-game issues going on at that time. Now, if someone came up to me and asked to use one of the old ABA balls, I might ask for one of the real balls instead. But it seems like it has never come up. That's why I wondered if there are any "illegal" balls out there that someone might legitimately assume is legal? Or is the rule in place so someone just doesn't try to slip in a volleyball?

Ok, back to poetry:

There once was a Chuck from Nantucket,
(Oh, never mind...)

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Stop that rhyming and I mean it.

Anybody want a peanut?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Ok, Rut, but while I'm pulling that stick out of my ***, you go pull your HEAD out of yours!
The original poster, oc, asked if there was a change in the rules a couple of year ago to legalize the 10-panel ball. You replied:

That's been shown to be totally WRONG.


Then you wrote:

Again, 100% WRONG. JR and I both quoted the rule from that season which specified eight panels. Just accept it, admit it, say it out loud if that helps.

But clearly you can't quite bring yourself to do that, so you take to throwing childish insults and writing the laughable:

Who gives a rat's rear if you care about this or not. No one asked! OC obviously cares since he took the time to ask a question about it. So either give him the correct answer or SHUT UP. Once again we have a thread on this forum in which you have managed to make multiple posts without contributing a darn thing. If you don't know or don't care, is it really so hard for you to keep quiet?

Guys like you are the reason that a lot of officials get turned off by this place and the internet in general. You take a relatively minor issue and blow it up as life and death. There is a guy like you in one of my football organizations that argues with people about every minor detail in the rules. He interrupts presentations to make points that have little to do with what is being talked about. And is one of the most disliked and worst officials in the entire association.

Dude, I got a question wrong about a rule that has long been out of the rulebook. I did not shoot your dog. I cannot remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, let alone how many panels have ever been on a basketball.

Your rant is definitely not contributing anything to this site, it just shows how anal you are and why people give you crap on many other topics. (While whispering )If you have not noticed, many people are mocking this topic. You are the only one that seems to care about the answer. Even the OPer is not saying anything. One of these days you will understand what is really important in life.

Peace