Setting ball down

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Mwanr1

1) But since we are talking about high school ball here, the player must have been really impaired or dumb to listen to the opponent's coach and actually giving him the ball. Come on now, the player must take some responsibilities for his action for turning the ball over.

2) Fans in the stands often scream "shoot the ball" or say words deliberately to create an advantage for their team. When we hear it, do we always penalize the fans for such action? Even when we do decide to penalize the fans, we would probably do this once in every so many times that we hear it. So what constitute the referees for penalizing the coach and not the fans if both people were to say the same thing?

3)And why is it that a defender can scream "dead" or "ball" when the dribble is dead and what makes that sporting vs. "give me the ball" or "shoot the ball" as unsporting?

1) Well, personally I really don't care if the player is impaired or dumb. That's got no relevancy at all imo when it comes to judging this play. As an official, all I'm worried about is whether I'm letting a coach and his team benefit from from an unsporting act in some way. If that unsporting act caused an opponent's turnover, then that coach and his team sureasheck are benefiting from that unsporting act imo. I won't let a coach get away with gaining an unfair advantage like that. Apparently you would. Guess we're gonna have to disagree on this one...big time.

2) Whatintheheck has the fans got to do with this play? Apples and oranges. The actions of the fans are completely irrelevant when it comes to judging whether a coach's actions are unsporting or not.....which is what the officials have to do in this case. If the fans do interfere with the play, then I'm also gonna take care of it, using the recommended way in the case book.

3) Players shouting "dead" or "shoot" aren't unsporting acts; it's that simple. Any official with any kind of experience at all knows the difference.