Pre Game

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Missing 1 is fine, I suppose. It's your problem usually.

But if you miss 1 I want to know about it...in case you miss another so I can be ready to help.

And certainly if you miss the game changing call I want to know about it so we (the crew) can save the game.

This argument about "I aint looking out of my area no way no how" and "trust your partner" and "who's watching Aunt Milly in the 4th row while you're looking in my area" is BS to me. I don't put on my black polyester pleated no belt no cuffs sansabelts and stick a whistle in my mouth only to ignore 2/3 of the game. If I did I would feel obligated to return 2/3 of my game fee. And trust is a 2 way street...if I'm going to trust you to make good calls then you have to trust me when I am forced to poach in your area.

Okay, soooo..............

what am I missing here? What are you trying to say?

I"m perfectly willing to trust you when you're poaching in my area, if you'll trust me not to blow up when you save the game by making my game changing call in ffront of our other partner. Or, huh?

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Okay, soooo..............

what am I missing here? What are you trying to say?

I"m perfectly willing to trust you when you're poaching in my area, if you'll trust me not to blow up when you save the game by making my game changing call in ffront of our other partner. Or, huh?

I have no idea what you're saying, or asking.

Try again?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Okay, soooo..............

what am I missing here? What are you trying to say?

I"m perfectly willing to trust you when you're poaching in my area, if you'll trust me not to blow up when you save the game by making my game changing call in ffront of our other partner. Or, huh?

If I am to understand you correctly Juulie, it sounds like you are saying that one call is going to save a game? I have never seen a situation where one call "saves" a game. Now there might be critical calls or important calls, but if a call needs to be made to save a game, I really think the official in that area should be put in trust to do so. If they cannot do so, they need not be there.

Peace

[rainmaker]

What I"m trying to say is, "I don't understand what Dan is trying to say." Wow, it's bad when I can't say, "huh?" and be understood! I guess I"d better stick to reading only for a while...

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

What I"m trying to say is, "I don't understand what Dan is trying to say." Wow, it's bad when I can't say, "huh?" and be understood! I guess I"d better stick to reading only for a while...

What I'm saying is:

1. Be aware of everything that goes on, in & out of your area.

2. If I trust you to call the game correctly then I trust you if you come into my area to pick something up. And I expect you to trust me when I come into your area.

3. If I don't trust you to call your game correctly I'm gonna help when you pass on the really big calls. How do I know I can't trust you? See #1.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

What I'm saying is:

1. Be aware of everything that goes on, in & out of your area.

2. If I trust you to call the game correctly then I trust you if you come into my area to pick something up. And I expect you to trust me when I come into your area.

3. If I don't trust you to call your game correctly I'm gonna help when you pass on the really big calls. How do I know I can't trust you? See #1.

Thanks.... for spelling that out more clearly, and for the content. I agree with you 100%. The whole "I'm not looking in your area" thing has never made sense to me. It sounds good as it comes out of the mouth, but in reality it's just plain stupid. It's important to be consistent with you partner, and the only way to do that is to see what partner is doing, what he's doing and what he's not doing, what he's calling and what he's not calling. Also, I think it's a lot easier to call in my area when I'm aware of what's going on in your area. As the ball moves, and players adjust, and set up new plays and so forth, I need to know which match-ups to keep a close eye on and where the various defenders are that might step into the dribbler's path. What you're saying isn't, "I'm responsible for the whole floor". You're saying "I"ll be AWARE of the whole floor, but I"m responsible for my primary and somewhat for my secondary". That makes the most sense.

[zebraman]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

You're saying "I"ll be AWARE of the whole floor, but I"m responsible for my primary and somewhat for my secondary". That makes the most sense.

Rainmaker,
That sounds an awful lot like what I posted 2 pages ago in this thread:

"An official needs to referee locally and be aware globally. Being aware means that you know where your partners and the ball are. It doesn't mean that you are reffing in their areas."

Z

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by zebraman

Rainmaker,
That sounds an awful lot like what I posted 2 pages ago in this thread:

"An official needs to referee locally and be aware globally. Being aware means that you know where your partners and the ball are. It doesn't mean that you are reffing in their areas."

Z

Okay, so.....