Guidance?

[mick]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Ok, consider her cited.



Ok, consider her cited.

Sheesh, how do I get dragged into this?

Now, for those of you just lurking and not actually participating in this discussion, you now see the problems that can occur just because two officials did not communicate with each other. A very simple thing, eye contact before putting the ball in play, can prevent numerous problems (the technical term is "clusterf***).

I've tried to figure out what I would do if this play were to happen to me. As T, I would've blown my whistle a couple of times when I saw my partner handing the ball to the player, so the play would be dead. Now, if I was L, and I didn't see my partner's hand up, and they didn't do anything to alert me, I think I might have to allow the play to stand. I believe one of the main questions being asked is which official has "precedence". My feeling would be that the official that has "on ball" responsibility would have the slight advantage, so they would be the one to take the heat for putting the ball in play without checking with their partner(s).

So boys and girls, I hope we've all learned a valuable lesson these last few days, at the expense of poor 'ol johnnyrao.

JR,
As Trail, my "Stop Sign" counts. My hand will be clearly at my partner's face and the game will not continue until both of us (or all of us) are ready.

As Lead, I will be prepared for a do-over for the same reasoning, the entire officiating crew was not ready and we aren't playing until it is.

mick

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by mick

JR,
As Trail, my "Stop Sign" counts. My hand will be clearly at my partner's face and the game will not continue until both of us (or all of us) are ready.

As Lead, I will be prepared for a do-over for the same reasoning, the entire officiating crew was not ready and we aren't playing until it is.

mick

And, if you were to come up to me and tell me that after I had put the ball in play, I probably wouldn't argue it. (And, of course, I would have to buy the after-game beverage for putting the ball in play in that instance.) More than likely, if the T is just standing there with their hand up, and not aware that I'm putting the ball in play, they probably aren't a strong official, so I'm going to have to be the one to make the ruling.

I guess my point was all this could be avoided by simply having eye contact with your partner(s) before the ball is put in play. It's a standard line in most pre-games, but it just bears repeating because so many problems can be avoided by this simple tactic.

[Back In The Saddle]

NevadaRef. That's a lot to consider, and consider I shall. It's a crazy busy day today, but I'll get back to you on this.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

NevadaRef. That's a lot to consider, and consider I shall. It's a crazy busy day today, but I'll get back to you on this.

Give up, BITS?

Don't blame you....

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Give up, BITS?

Don't blame you....

Nah, just been too busy the last couple of days to dig into this. Yet

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Nah, just been too busy the last couple of days to dig into this. Yet

Don't bother, life's too short.

Take your favorite gal out to dinner & a movie & get fresh with her instead.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Don't bother, life's too short.

Take your favorite gal out to dinner & a movie & get fresh with her instead.

You speak much wisdom, Dan_ref. My wife agrees with you.

[dblref]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Don't bother, life's too short.

Take your favorite gal out to dinner & a movie & get fresh with her instead.

This sounds nice, but my wife won't increase my weekly allowance so I can take my "favorite gal" out to dinner and a movie.