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Old Thu Jun 01, 2006, 04:32pm
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I gave a very specific situation where I said that I (only me, not speaking for anyone else) WOULD grant the time-out...never said anything about MUST, SHALL, HAD TO, BETTER DO IT OR ELSE, etc...and changing the situation where I said I would grant the t.o. to a different situation and saying they are the same thing doesn't work either...
Ok, ok, even I'm getting confused. I need to stop by the Cleveland Public Library this weekend and sort things out.

But, Tony's and my questions have to with timing - when the coach requests the TO vs. when we actually grant it. In most cases, the request and the granting come at essentially the same time; same dead ball period, same live ball period, etc. In the situation we've had this knock-down, drag-out fight about ( ), the request is made during a dead ball period, the ball becomes live, then dead, then the request is granted. In basketball rules terms, that's a long time. We were just asking if you allow that much time in between the request and granting, where do you draw the line as to "too much time" and then not allowing the request? (Like the absurd examples we've given previously.) We've only been saying the coach has informed us of their intention to call a TO at a particular time, then we can consider the nod, wink, or whatever the actual request, which we then grant. Does that make sense?
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Old Thu Jun 01, 2006, 04:42pm
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Ok, ok, even I'm getting confused. I need to stop by the Cleveland Public Library this weekend and sort things out.

But, Tony's and my questions have to with timing - when the coach requests the TO vs. when we actually grant it. In most cases, the request and the granting come at essentially the same time; same dead ball period, same live ball period, etc. In the situation we've had this knock-down, drag-out fight about ( ), the request is made during a dead ball period, the ball becomes live, then dead, then the request is granted. In basketball rules terms, that's a long time. We were just asking if you allow that much time in between the request and granting, where do you draw the line as to "too much time" and then not allowing the request? (Like the absurd examples we've given previously.) We've only been saying the coach has informed us of their intention to call a TO at a particular time, then we can consider the nod, wink, or whatever the actual request, which we then grant. Does that make sense?
Absolutely it makes sense...but hopefully it also makes sense that "Hey, I want a time-out if the shot goes" is a whole lot different that requesting a time-out when there is a scramble for a loose ball, or when asking for it before the game even starts...
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Old Thu Jun 01, 2006, 04:59pm
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I need to stop by the Cleveland Public Library this weekend and sort things out.
The Cleveland Library? Better check first to make sure that their book isn't out. Not that it really matters.....I heard that it's been completely colored anyway.

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Old Thu Jun 01, 2006, 10:12pm
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