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Old Fri Apr 28, 2006, 10:26pm
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Tonight is a perfect example of entertainment over rules. I love Lebron James, I think he'll have 2-3 rings before he retires but come on, could he have made that great play to win the game without the benefit of 4-steps???

It was an obvious, no doubt about it travel. Obviously the NBA edict is not to call traveling in those situations.
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Old Sat Apr 29, 2006, 05:45am
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Tonight is a perfect example of entertainment over rules. I love Lebron James, I think he'll have 2-3 rings before he retires but come on, could he have made that great play to win the game without the benefit of 4-steps???

It was an obvious, no doubt about it travel. Obviously the NBA edict is not to call traveling in those situations.
Geeze, I just went to ESPN to take a look at it; I thought it couldn't really be that bad. I was wrong. He did a jump stop- and then he just kept a-walking until he got open.

Unbelievable......
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Old Sat Apr 29, 2006, 12:47pm
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Geeze, I just went to ESPN to take a look at it; I thought it couldn't really be that bad. I was wrong.
I only saw it once on SportsCenter, but it didn't strike me as all that bad. He pivoted after the jump stop, but that's legal in the NBA. I'll take your word for it, tho.
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Old Sat Apr 29, 2006, 05:50pm
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I only saw it once on SportsCenter, but it didn't strike me as all that bad. He pivoted after the jump stop, but that's legal in the NBA. I'll take your word for it, tho.
Chuck,

You may want to take another look at the replay. He jumped stopped (debatable, just looked like 2 steps to me), then after pump faking the defender out of position, he took 2 full steps towards the basket, then jumped off 2 feet.
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Old Sun Apr 30, 2006, 11:51am
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I only saw it once on SportsCenter, but it didn't strike me as all that bad. He pivoted after the jump stop, but that's legal in the NBA. I'll take your word for it, tho.
Grin....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...042901503.html

Any resemblance between what's in the rules and what's actually called is strictly coincidental.

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Old Fri May 05, 2006, 05:41am
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I only saw it once on SportsCenter, but it didn't strike me as all that bad. He pivoted after the jump stop, but that's legal in the NBA.
Brought back from the dead because of something in this morning's NY Post.....

From Peter Vecsey's column- citing NBA Director of Official, Ronnie Nunn, on this play- "Nunn unhesitatingly concedes James got away with two violations, a walk and an up-and-down, on his game-winning drive in game 3"

http://www.nypost.com/sports/65573.htm

Only two?

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Old Fri May 05, 2006, 07:46am
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"Nunn unhesitatingly concedes James got away with two violations, a walk and an up-and-down, on his game-winning drive in game 3"
First of all, why do you keep quoting me?!?! I already admitted that I only saw it once and that I take your word (and Ronnie's) that it was, in fact, a travel.

But second of all, "We did a lot of things to win the game," the Wizards coach said after practice yesterday. "And because a travel wasn't called, you don't win the game." Come on. Don't we always say that one call doesn't cost the game? Wasn't there a missed FT in there somewhere, or a turnover, or a missed defensive switch? Maybe that was why they lost the game.

Third of all, I don't like Vecsey on TV or in print.
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Old Fri May 05, 2006, 08:15am
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1) First of all, why do you keep quoting me?!?!

2) Don't we always say that one call doesn't cost the game?
1) Because you're an NBA apologist... and I also like to bug you.....

2) Yabut.....that one did. If they call traveling, Washington wins. They didn't and Cleveland won.

But.....who really cares anyway?
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Old Fri May 05, 2006, 09:52am
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2) Yabut.....that one did. If they call traveling, Washington wins. They didn't and Cleveland won.
Chuck's point is still valid. If Washington makes a couple of those missed free throws, makes that one defensive switch, avoids that one turnover, then they're in a position where the travel call doesn't matter.

And yes, I realize that you're just yankin' Chuck's chain. But it's been a while since I've had a well-reasoned, thoughtful post (and this is the best I could do on short notice )
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