Rule Changes for Next Season

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by bbref3103

Rocky -- it only took me 2 posts to figure out what level people in this forum work. But thanks for the props on my detective work. You are right, you will never see the "clock" committ a foul or violation, but why wouldn't you want to get a clock reference EVERY time a whistle is sounded? It is for the good of the crew and the game. It will also help you remember plays, that as a crew, you can talk about in your post game. If you take a mental note of a play that happened at the 5:03 mark left in the first half (Hey Jurassic -- what level do I work) it will help you as an official discuss and recognize plays and become a better referee.

Hey dumbass, just an FYI for you. Rockyroad worked the D2 Women's Final Four in Springfield, Massachusetts this year. Which Final Four did you work?

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Hey dumbass, just an FYI for you. Rockyroad worked the D2 Women's Final Four in Springfield, Massachusetts this year. Which Final Four did you work?

Before or after he woke up?

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

And that's going to turn the game into a circus.

I disagree.

How often is the timer going to be able to stop the clock at the very tenth you whistle?

Irrelevant. It doesn't have to stop on the tenth that I whistle. It only has to be stopped by the time I see it.

Coaches are going to want time put back up on virtually every stoppage.

Irrelevant. Who the dexter cares what the coach wants?

Further, how often are you actually looking at the clock when you blow the whistle?

Irrelevant. Again, it doesn't matter whether I'm looking at the clock or not. It only matters that it is stopped when I see it.

That's what makes the rule change a good one. We don't have to worry about when we looked at the clock to determine if lag time was exceeded. If the clock is moving when I see it, then the lag time was exceeded. Period.

JMO, obviously. But I like the change.

[zebraman]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

I disagree.
JMO, obviously. But I like the change.

I do too.

Z

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by zebraman

I do too.

Z

Me too, too.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Me too, too.

WHAT??? You wear a tutu??? Now that would be even better than the squirrel picture!

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

WHAT??? You wear a tutu??? Now that would be even better than the squirrel picture!

Picture of Dan at one of last season's games after accepting accolades from the crowd:

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

WHAT??? You wear a tutu??? Now that would be even better than the squirrel picture!

Sorry, I was responding to Chuck & mis-typed.

What I *meant* to say was me too, too-too.

...geeze, you little guys really stick together, dontchya??

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Picture of Dan at one of last season's games after accepting accolades from the crowd:

You guys been holding on to that one for a while, haven't ya?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

Irrelevant. Who the dexter cares what the coach wants?

Who said anyone cared? I simply stated "Coaches are going to want time put back up on virtually every stoppage." Once that clock goes under 1 minute in a tight game, there will be more coaches complaining about the clock, and we will have to deal with those coaches.

You're pretty naive if you think this thing is going to be smooth sailing.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Picture of Dan at one of last season's games after accepting accolades from the crowd:

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Geeze Dan, how much weight have you lost? You're practically wasting away!

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Geeze Dan, how much weight have you lost? You're practically wasting away!

I'm on a new "see food" diet.

I see food & I eat it.

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Who said anyone cared? I simply stated "Coaches are going to want time put back up on virtually every stoppage." Once that clock goes under 1 minute in a tight game, there will be more coaches complaining about the clock, and we will have to deal with those coaches.

Again, I just don't see how this is relevant. They're already complaining about fouls and violations on every possession. So who cares if they complain about the clock instead?

You're pretty naive if you think this thing is going to be smooth sailing.

Then color me naive, I guess. See it, fix it. Don't see it, don't fix it. Doesn't seem that hard to me.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Reading about this guy/girl from the other post I would come up with one of two options:

1. He/she had a powerful person speaking on their behalf to make it to the D1 level. If this is the case I would say they neither deserver to be there or work on crews where they get protected. Someone has to be an idiot to give the ball to the wrong team to make a coach mad and a super moron to come on a forum and brag about it.
2. He/she isn't telling the truth and they aren't in D1.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with only wanted to do HS ball. The only problem I've witnessed is HS officials who don't aspire to get better. A lot of times that might involve a college camp.
There is a lot of BS in HS ball. Well, multiply that by 1,000,000 and that is what college ball is like. The easiest part of college ball is the 40 minutes between the lines. I could leave the rest of it alone in a heart beat. More and more it isn't about what you do on the floor, it is about who you know and other BS.
Another interesting thing I've noticed in the last couple of weeks is this seems to be more on the men's side than the women's side. I know a girl who went to a camp way out of her area and did very well. If she lived on the east coast she would be on the radar of every major conference; for her it was as simple as that. Don't get me wrong, she is very good, but I know she is not into politics and what she did would not happen - at least I don't think so - on the men's side. It hasn't just impacted me, I know many other refs who are deserving of at least a legitimate opportunity and they don't get it. I've heard guys told things like, "you should take up golf" and other things. End of rant - I have many stories I could tell.

I hate to beat this dead horse into the ground, but if a person just want to do HS ball, good for them. Whatever level you are at, do the best at that level. Most people dont have the jobs, nor the time to do college ball or NBA if the opportunity comes about. So knocking someone for only wanting to do HS is very wrong.