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JRutledge · #31 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 17, 2006, 02:32pm

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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Rut:

I understand why the NBA/WNBA has it I just think it is stupid and hope that the NFHS and NCAA (and don't get me started on Barb Jacobs and her lack of rules knowledge contribution to the situation) does not adopt such a rule.

MTD, Sr.

Ah Mark, I think you are responding to Tony, not me. I did not make any posts in this thread until this very post.

Peace

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. · #32 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 17, 2006, 02:39pm

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Originally Posted by tomegun

MTD, I think the biggest problem with the NFHS and NCAA is consistency. It doesn't matter if you have the restricted area or a picture of Bozo the Clown, if games aren't called consistently people will be unhappy.

tomegun:

I agree with you regarding consistiencey. The real problem concerning the guarding/screening problem is that officials are calling way too many blocks instead of charges. I am will to bet dollars to donuts that if an official had 100 bang-bang block/charge calls and called a charge 100% of the time I would say that the official would be correct at least 95% of the time which is a higher percentage of being correct that anything that the players or coachs do during the game.

MTD, Sr.

BktBallRef · #33 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 17, 2006, 02:46pm

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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Rut:

I understand why the NBA/WNBA has it I just think it is stupid and hope that the NFHS and NCAA (and don't get me started on Barb Jacobs and her lack of rules knowledge contribution to the situation) does not adopt such a rule.

MTD, Sr.

I'm not Rut. Never have been, never will. I'd slit my wrists first.

Now, that we have that out of the way, you must not understand why the NBA/WNBA has that rule or you wouldn't have agreed with the idiot sportswriter that it was referee incompetence.

JRutledge · #34 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 17, 2006, 02:55pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef

I'm not Rut. Never have been, never will. I'd slit my wrists first.

Do you promise?

Peace

Dan_ref · #35 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 17, 2006, 03:01pm

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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

tomegun:

I agree with you regarding consistiencey. The real problem concerning the guarding/screening problem is that officials are calling way too many blocks instead of charges. I am will to bet dollars to donuts that if an official had 100 bang-bang block/charge calls and called a block 100% of the time I would say that the official would be correct at least 95% of the time which is a higher percentage of being correct that anything that the players or coachs do during the game.

MTD, Sr.

Mark, donuts are really not so good for you.

You should bet dollars to a stir fried 6 oz chicken breast with brocolli, bean sprouts and mushrooms with a nice green salad on the side. Try it with the balsamic/olive oil dressing.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. · #36 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 17, 2006, 03:01pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef

I'm not Rut. Never have been, never will. I'd slit my wrists first.

Now, that we have that out of the way, you must not understand why the NBA/WNBA has that rule or you wouldn't have agreed with the idiot sportswriter that it was referee incompetence.

Rut and Tony:

This is what happens because I am blind in one eye and can't see out of the other (the number one requirement to be a sports official) and try to multi-task at the same time. There is a reason that my wife gave me bubblegum before we went to bed when we were first married and weren't ready to have children.

MTD, Sr.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. · #37 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 17, 2006, 03:02pm

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Mark, donuts are really not so good for you.

You should bet dollars to a stir fried 6 oz chicken breast with brocolli, bean sprouts and mushrooms with a nice green salad on the side. Try it with the balsamic/olive oil dressing.

Dan:

You sound just like my wife only she is better looking (especially in fish net stockings) and has a sexier voice.

MTD, Sr.

Dan_ref · #38 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 17, 2006, 03:04pm

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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Dan:

You sound just like my wife only she is better looking (especially in fish net stockings) and has a sexier voice.

MTD, Sr.

I agree, your wife looks pretty good in fishnets!

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. · #39 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 17, 2006, 03:04pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef

I'm not Rut. Never have been, never will. I'd slit my wrists first.

Tony:

Now, that we have that out of the way, you must not understand why the NBA/WNBA has that rule or you wouldn't have agreed with the idiot sportswriter that it was referee incompetence.

I think that the NBA/WNBA officials are competent, I think that H.S. officials are the one's that do the poor job of calling block/charge.

MTD, Sr.

Camron Rust · #40 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 17, 2006, 11:45pm

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

So, a guard makes a great play to tie up the ball with the opposing center, and you prefer to have those two jump it up instead of using an AP arrow? An official's ability to throw up a straight toss has NO BEARING on the change in this rule. The AP arrow has made the game a much better game.

The problem with this angle is that if aguard did make such a great play there wouldn't even be a held ball. He would have gained sole possession of the ball. Likewise for the center, if it was a great play by him, he wouldn't have allowed the guard to tie it up. A held ball is a mediocre play for both teams...split the difference, go with the arrow. (NCAA tried going back the the team in control but that opened up a real pandora's box of weird situations and they quickly reverted to the arrow).

ChuckElias · #41 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 18, 2006, 05:29am

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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

The real problem concerning the guarding/screening problem is that officials are calling way too many blocks instead of charges. I am will to bet dollars to donuts that if an official had 100 bang-bang block/charge calls and called a block 100% of the time I would say that the official would be correct at least 95% of the time

Mark, is this a typo, or am I misunderstanding your point? You say that we call way too many blocks, but then you go on to say that 95% of all block/charge situations are actually blocks.

Kind of hard to figure that officials call "way too many" blocks if a block is the correct call 95% of the time.

BktBallRef · #42 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 18, 2006, 08:43am

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Originally Posted by ChuckElias

Mark, is this a typo, or am I misunderstanding your point? You say that we call way too many blocks, but then you go on to say that 95% of all block/charge situations are actually blocks.

Kind of hard to figure that officials call "way too many" blocks if a block is the correct call 95% of the time.

Chuck, he's been posting under the influence since he started replying to this thread.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. · #43 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 18, 2006, 03:52pm

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Originally Posted by ChuckElias

Mark, is this a typo, or am I misunderstanding your point? You say that we call way too many blocks, but then you go on to say that 95% of all block/charge situations are actually blocks.

Kind of hard to figure that officials call "way too many" blocks if a block is the correct call 95% of the time.

Chuck:

Tony is correct. I am typing under the influence

. I will go back and edit my post. I meant that if a charge was called that the official would be correct 95% of the time. I even highlighted charge in red.

MTD, Sr.