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rockyroad Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:58pm
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Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Anybody see Grady Little get thrown out of the Dodgers game last night? He went out to talk to his pitcher. Then the home plate umpire said something to Grady from the home plate area. Grady didn't hear it and yelled to the umpire to repeat it. Either the umpire wouldn't repeat it, or Grady didn't hear it the second time. So he leaves the mound and walks to home plate to talk to the plate ump. When he's done, he goes back to the mound to finish talking to his pitcher. He finishes and goes back to the dugout.

At that point, the opposing manager comes out and argues that the pitcher has to be removed b/c Grady made two trips to the mound. The umpires have a pow-wow and agree. They require the Dodgers to change pitchers.

Grady argues and, of course, is tossed. Pretty sneaky of the other manager, but good for him for knowing the rule. The ump could've prevented the situation by walking out to the mound to talk to Grady, but oh well. And on talk radio tonight, the ump is getting bashed for just that reason.

I heard this line tonight. "Players win games. Coaches and managers lose them. Referees and umpires ruin them."

Cute. Kinda funny, too. Too bad so many people believe it.

Heard a postgame interview with the Dodger 2nd baseman who said that the whole thing started when the shortstop made a comment about the last pitch being a strike and that the umpire made a bad call (called it a ball)...supposedly umpire hears that and responds with a "F@#* you" to the shortstop at which point Grady wants it repeated and then the whole show gets going...no idea if that's what really was said, but if it was, the ump deserves whatever lambasting he gets...

Nevadaref Fri Aug 25, 2006 01:56am
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Originally Posted by rockyroad
Heard a postgame interview with the Dodger 2nd baseman who said that the whole thing started when the shortstop made a comment about the last pitch being a strike and that the umpire made a bad call (called it a ball)...supposedly umpire hears that and responds with a "F@#* you" to the shortstop at which point Grady wants it repeated and then the whole show gets going...no idea if that's what really was said, but if it was, the ump deserves whatever lambasting he gets...
Sounds like if the shortstop had kept his mouth shut the whole mess never would have taken place. If you want to blame someone for getting the pitcher removed, blame the SS.

Jurassic Referee Fri Aug 25, 2006 02:47am
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Originally Posted by rockyroad
Heard a postgame interview with the Dodger 2nd baseman who said that the whole thing started when the shortstop made a comment about the last pitch being a strike and that the umpire made a bad call (called it a ball)...supposedly umpire hears that and responds with a "F@#* you" to the shortstop at which point Grady wants it repeated and then the whole show gets going...no idea if that's what really was said, but if it was, the ump deserves whatever lambasting he gets...
That's funny; the LA papers say that Jeff Kent, the LA 2B, was the one yapping. That don't surprise me at all; he's got a rep as being one of the biggest jerks in <i>beisbol</i>. An account that I read yesterday said the the ump went to Kent and read him the riot act about whining, and Little then went to the ump trying to keep Kent in the game. The SS was never mentioned in the game reports that I read. The Dodger's pitcher, Penny, also has acquired quite a rep for being an all-star whiner also.

http://latimes.com/sports/la-sp-dodr...adlines-sports

Don't forget that youy're getting the home-town version of what happened too.

Jurassic Referee Fri Aug 25, 2006 07:11am
Yo, Mick.......

Didya ever see a hitter get thrown out at first by the <b>left fielder</b> before?

Never heard of that one....:D

M&M Guy Fri Aug 25, 2006 08:45am
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Yo, Mick.......

Didya ever see a hitter get thrown out at first by the <b>left fielder</b> before?

Never heard of that one....:D
I saw that replay. I'm not sure I can entirely blame Casey, since he thought the ball was caught by the 3rd baseman. Kudos to the Sox left fielder for hustling and getting the ball in to 1st. I don't think I even remember seeing that in LL either. Now, I've seen a right fielder throw out a runner at 1st, but not a left fielder. Or even a Prince Fielder.

I hope that's only something that gets shown on the year-end championship highlights, and not the start of the slide...

Dan_ref Fri Aug 25, 2006 09:06am
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Originally Posted by mick
Interesting.
A Manager/Coach may come out twice in one inning and replace the pitcher on the 3rd trip that inning.
A Manager/Coach may come out 3 times in a game and must replace the pitcher on the 4th trip.
Good point, there was another trip in there somewhere, I was probably too drunk to remember.

It's still a good story & I'm not going to let you ruin it with your details. The kid's dad wanted to hang himself, I suggested he wait until the game was over.

:p

ChuckElias Fri Aug 25, 2006 09:44am
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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
Good point, there was another trip in there somewhere, I was probably too drunk to remember.
Speaking of trips and being drunk, you gonna show up at the Wagon Wheel this weekend?? :D

rockyroad Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:03am
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
That's funny; the LA papers say that Jeff Kent, the LA 2B, was the one yapping. That don't surprise me at all; he's got a rep as being one of the biggest jerks in <i>beisbol</i>. An account that I read yesterday said the the ump went to Kent and read him the riot act about whining, and Little then went to the ump trying to keep Kent in the game. The SS was never mentioned in the game reports that I read. The Dodger's pitcher, Penny, also has acquired quite a rep for being an all-star whiner also.

http://latimes.com/sports/la-sp-dodr...adlines-sports

Don't forget that youy're getting the home-town version of what happened too.
Oops, you're right - got the SS and 2nd base backwards in my post...guess I've been watching too many Mariners games! (altho we did beat the Yankees again last night)

Dan_ref Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:04am
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Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Speaking of trips and being drunk, you gonna show up at the Wagon Wheel this weekend?? :D
Yeah, I'm Tiny's backup singer.

(when's the last day? Tuesday or Wed? I might come down when it gets to playoff time, just to see you take sh1t from the cranky coaches :)

rockyroad Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:04am
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
Sounds like if the shortstop had kept his mouth shut the whole mess never would have taken place. If you want to blame someone for getting the pitcher removed, blame the SS.

Didn't blame anyone...simply stated that if the umpire did say that to a player, he deserves to get lambasted.

mick Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:58am
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Yo, Mick.......

Didya ever see a hitter get thrown out at first by the left fielder before?

Never heard of that one....:D
JR,
Geez, was Casey embarrassed !
...And well deserved.
Looked like Casy being Manny ....

If it hadn't been for the fans cheering the drop, Casey might still be standing with his back to the play.
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...608250344/1004
From what I understand about Casey's character though, he'll probably be sincerely apologizing for weeks. ;)
mick

Jurassic Referee Fri Aug 25, 2006 01:08pm
A 5 1/2 game lead can disappear in a big hurry, Mick. That true for the Yankees too. There's a whole lot of <i>beisbol</i> left. Not too many pennants are won in August.

Around September 15th. is when everyone should start watching the standings seriously.

Jurassic Referee Fri Aug 25, 2006 01:10pm
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Originally Posted by rockyroad
altho we did beat the Yankees again last night..
And don't think that the Yankees aren't embarrassed as hell about that.......

Looked like a Bad News Bears movie......

mick Fri Aug 25, 2006 01:54pm
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
A 5 1/2 game lead can disappear in a big hurry, Mick. That true for the Yankees too. There's a whole lot of beisbol left. Not too many pennants are won in August.

Around September 15th. is when everyone should start watching the standings seriously.
Just enjoying the moment, JR. http://www.deephousepage.com/smilies/rasta.gif

Thanks for the September 15th tip.
I wouldn't have known that.

Nevadaref Fri Aug 25, 2006 04:15pm
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Originally Posted by rockyroad
Didn't blame anyone...simply stated that if the umpire did say that to a player, he deserves to get lambasted.
And I simply pointed out that the umpire was likely replying in kind. The player certainly said something to him first. Given the way those guys talk to each other all the time, is it a big leap to surmise that a few expletives came out of the player's mouth?

It seemed that you were singling out the umpire for lambasting and forgetting to include the player.


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