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Jurassic Referee Tue Aug 29, 2006 09:51am
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Originally Posted by mick
Tigers are overdue, M&M !
Tigers are only winning 23% of the games with 29% of the payroll.

<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=bg0 align=left><TD class=bg0 colSpan=5>Team Payrolls</TD></TR><TR class=bg4 id=special align=middle><TD class=bg1 align=left>No.</TD><TD class=bg1 align=left>Team</TD><TD class=bg1 align=left>Payroll</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>1.</TD><TD align=left>New York Yankees</TD><TD align=left>$198,662,180</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>14.</TD><TD align=left>Detroit Tigers </TD><TD align=left>$82,302,069</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Geeze, Mick, if you go by payroll, Detroit <b>should</b> be winning or close in their own division. Minny is #19, Cleveland is #25 and KC is #26. The Tigers are only behind the White Sox in their own division when it comes to spending.

http://www.onestopbaseball.com/TeamPayroll.asp

Using salaries only doesn't explain Oakland, or even Cinci who is leading the wild card in the NL. They're #21 and 22 respectively.

mick Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:20am
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Geeze, Mick, if you go by payroll, Detroit should be winning or close in their own division.
...Uh, yeah ??!!!? :)

ChuckElias Thu Aug 31, 2006 09:59am
Oz Ref's latest thread pretty much sums up the Sox at this point, I think: "It's all over". I knew that it would tough with the patchwork pitching staff, but the offense has been horrible lately, too. I disagreed with all the talking heads who were saying the Sox just had to salvage one of the games from that 5-game Yankees series, but it sure looks like they were right. They just seem demoralized. Go Tigers!!

Jurassic Referee Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:23am
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Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Oz Ref's latest thread pretty much sums up the Sox at this point, I think: "It's all over". I knew that it would tough with the patchwork pitching staff, but the offense has been horrible lately, too. I disagreed with all the talking heads who were saying the Sox just had to salvage one of the games from that 5-game Yankees series, but it sure looks like they were right. They just seem demoralized. Go Tigers!!
Fair weather fans.....:rolleyes:

Lot of <i>beisbol</i> left and a lot can happen....

M&M Guy Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:39am
C'mon Chuck, if you need optimism, just talk to a Cub fan...

ChuckElias Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:45am
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Fair weather fans.....:rolleyes:

Lot of <i>beisbol</i> left and a lot can happen....
Do you think, after watching them over the last 6 weeks, that the Sox have any legitimate hope of reaching the playoffs? I'm not disavowing them. I'm just saying that 8 games behind the Yankees on August 31 -- and dropping -- leaves them out of October baseball. If they were the Twins, say, and were 8 games behind the Tigers -- but had been moving up the standings over the last 3 weeks -- I'd give them some chance.

But any realistic person, I think, has to say that the Red Sox will not make up that ground in the next 4 1/2 weeks. If they do, I'll be ecstatic and will gladly admit that I'm wrong right now. But I don't see how they can do it with the pitching they have and the really bad offense they're showing.

M&M Guy Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:47am
But isn't good news that Big Papi will be back in the next day or two?

Jurassic Referee Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:02am
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Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Do you think, after watching them over the last 6 weeks, that the Sox have any legitimate hope of reaching the playoffs? I'm not disavowing them. I'm just saying that 8 games behind the Yankees on August 31 -- and dropping -- leaves them out of October baseball. If they were the Twins, say, and were 8 games behind the Tigers -- but had been moving up the standings over the last 3 weeks -- I'd give them some chance.

But any realistic person, I think, has to say that the Red Sox will not make up that ground in the next 4 1/2 weeks. If they do, I'll be ecstatic and will gladly admit that I'm wrong right now. But I don't see how they can do it with the pitching they have and the really bad offense they're showing.
You never know, Chuck.

Remember the '88 Dodgers? That was probably the worst team, talent-wise, to ever win a World Series. They supposedly had no shot to win their division, then they had no shot to beat the Mets in the NLCS, and they definitely had no shot to beat the A's... who were supposed to be the best team since the '27 Yankees.

You never know....

Now let's all hold hands and sing "High Hopes"....



Actually, fuggedaboutit. Who are we kidding? The BoSox are as dead as Dan's dong......or the Cubbies.

rockyroad Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:38pm
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
You never know, Chuck.

Actually, fuggedaboutit. Who are we kidding? The BoSox are as dead as Dan's dong......or the Cubbies.

What? Chuck didn't know about Dan's dong being dead??? I thought that message went out to everyone two years ago!

Btw - everyone see Rafael Soriano take the line drive to the head the other night? Yikes - I thought he was dead...major concussion and they say he probably won't pitch again this season, but being 14 games out, he's just start vacation a few weeks earlier than the rest of the M's...

M&M Guy Thu Aug 31, 2006 01:12pm
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Originally Posted by rockyroad
What? Chuck didn't know about Dan's dong being dead??? I thought that message went out to everyone two years ago!

Btw - everyone see Rafael Soriano take the line drive to the head the other night? Yikes - I thought he was dead...major concussion and they say he probably won't pitch again this season, but being 14 games out, he's just start vacation a few weeks earlier than the rest of the M's...
I saw that replay - it was scary. I was glad to hear there won't be any lasting physical effects. But I'll guarantee you it will affect his pitching once he comes back. There will always be that little flinch, or something, every time he sees a batter swing. I hope he can work his way through that.

Jurassic Referee Thu Aug 31, 2006 01:52pm
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Originally Posted by rockyroad
What? Chuck didn't know about Dan's dong being dead??? I thought that message went out to everyone two years ago!
Yeah, even Juulie went to the wake. With a smile on her face, of course.

Yes, M&M, I <b>am</b> going to hell.

M&M Guy Thu Aug 31, 2006 01:59pm
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Yeah, even Juulie went to the wake. With a smile on her face, of course.

Yes, M&M, I <b>am</b> going to hell.
I've sort of assumed that for a while; I'm glad to see you're quickly removing any doubts...

mick Thu Aug 31, 2006 03:25pm
Leaving New York City....
 
Tigers won one. [33%] Real fine series !

This is what I have recently learned.
On my team, I want Derek Jeter, Jermayne Dye, Jim Thome, Johan Santana and Coco Crisp.

Jurassic Referee Thu Aug 31, 2006 03:44pm
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Originally Posted by mick
Tigers won one. [33%] Real fine series !

This is what I have recently learned.
On my team, I want Derek Jeter, Jermayne Dye, Jim Thome, Johan Santana and Coco Crisp.
Jim Thome is a DH. Gimme David Ortiz in his place anytime, anyday. <i>Big Papi</i> is a hold-your-breath kinda hitter. I'd trade our resident steroid-monkey, Giambi, for him in a New Yawk minute. Imagine Ortiz in Yankee Stadium with that short porch in right field? He'd hit more than 60- legitimately.

mick Thu Aug 31, 2006 05:31pm
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Jim Thome is a DH. Gimme David Ortiz in his place anytime, anyday. Big Papi is a hold-your-breath kinda hitter. I'd trade our resident steroid-monkey, Giambi, for him in a New Yawk minute. Imagine Ortiz in Yankee Stadium with that short porch in right field? He'd hit more than 60- legitimately.
Big Papi can't play 'til Saturday. Thome played today.


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