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Old Fri Mar 31, 2006, 02:31am
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Say what?

See NFHS rule 10-6PENALTIES- #4, 5 & 6. They cover all intentional fouls and all situations. #4covers your particular question.

It's at the bottom of p.66 and top of p.67of the rule book.
Say this ...

Rule 10 Summary #4. Two free throws if intentional or flagrant, plus ball for throw-in.

This sentence does not define whether it applies to a try that is successful or unsuccessful.

It is defined in the Case Book Study but we all interpret #4 to mean during the act of shooting and a try or tap is successful or not, then award 2 free throws and ball for a throw-in.

For Rule 10 Summary #5, it defines an intentional foul in act of shooting and a try is unsuccessful shall give the shooter two free throws on a 2 point try.

Rule 10 Summary #2. One Free throw if fouled in the act of shooting and two- or three-point try or tap is successful.... applies to which technical or is it referring to all techs?

I feel there is an error in the Rule Book publication.
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Old Fri Mar 31, 2006, 08:16am
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Rule 10 Summary #2. One Free throw if fouled in the act of shooting and two- or three-point try or tap is successful.... applies to which technical or is it referring to all techs?
Rule 10 Summary 2 follows the section on Contact, so technical fouls are not being discussed. An intentional foul is 2 shots and the ball.
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Old Fri Mar 31, 2006, 11:30am
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Rule 10 Summary 2 follows the section on Contact, so technical fouls are not being discussed. An intentional foul is 2 shots and the ball.
Huh?

Technical fouls are being discussed there and we all know an intentional foul on A1 will give the player two free throws plus the ball on a throw-in.

What you are reading after Rule 10-6 Contact on page 66 is separate information called, PENALTIES Rule 10 Summary and has nothing to do with following in conjunction with Rule 10-6.

Rule 10 Summary does discuss all technical penalties and refers to all of them in summary format.

All of us agree to issue 2 shots on a try that is successful, yet I feel the Rule Book does not fully clarify as to whether you are given 1 or 2 shots for a successful try or tap while being fouled intentionally.
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Old Sat Apr 01, 2006, 10:35pm
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What you are reading after Rule 10-6 Contact on page 66 is separate information called, PENALTIES Rule 10 Summary and has nothing to do with following in conjunction with Rule 10-6.
Thanks - good to know my oversight.
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Old Sat Apr 01, 2006, 11:17pm
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I feel there is an error in the Rule Book publication.
There is no error. The book is clear.

Two free throws if intentional or flagrant, plus ball for throw-in.

It makes no difference whether there's a shot or not. That's why it's unnecessary to address whether the shot is good or not good.
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Old Sun Apr 02, 2006, 01:12am
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There is no error. The book is clear.

Two free throws if intentional or flagrant, plus ball for throw-in.

It makes no difference whether there's a shot or not. That's why it's unnecessary to address whether the shot is good or not good.
IMO, the above statement should be noted in the Rule Book.
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Old Sun Apr 02, 2006, 11:26am
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Well, when you get on the NFHS Rule Committee, feel free to make the change.

Doesn't the Case Book clarify it for you? Tha'ts what the Case Book does. That's why it's there. It's a necessary supplement to the Rule Book?

Let me ask you this. A1 is fouled in the act of shooting. As he goes to the line, you wanr him to tuck his shirt tail in. He doesn't and takes his first FT. Now what do you do and where can I find it in the Rule Book?
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Old Mon Apr 03, 2006, 02:05pm
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• I will join the committee and recommend another change to exclude old squirrels without a nut.

• The Case Book is used to illustrate in written form a better understanding of the Rule Book. It supplements a given rule.

• There is no defining clarification in the NFHS Rule Book for an intentional foul when a try is successful or unsuccessful as there is with the Case Book.

• For your situation, I would allow the shot to be taken and then have the shooter removed from the game.

Now what should you do when you are ready to administer the ball to A1 and he/she is not ready and is outside the semi-circle conversing with teammates or fans?

Have a nice day.
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