The magic number

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

The other fact is that if you know the shot clock started correctly and team control was established immediately at the first touch, then when the shot clock shows 25, 10 seconds have elapsed, regardless of where your count is. In that situation, I believe (if you are aware of the shot clock) that you call the violation based on the clock

Thanks for your explanation...I had never really thought about it in those terms.

[tomegun]

So if someone else talks about it, it is silly. But, if Chuck gives detailed VALID information...

GOT IT!

[jeffpea]

Let's kill two birds with one stone and submit a new rule for 2006-2007:

ALL shot clocks MUST display the tenths of a second (i.e. 35.0, 34.9, 34.8, etc) AND the 10-sec violation will be called when a full :10 have elapsed as determined by the shot clock.

Now there will be no argument from any coaches, players, or officials that when the shot clock shows 25.5 remaining, everyone will know that only 9.5 seconds have elapsed (and therefore NO violation has occurred).

I hope everyone feels better now. Just like I tell my kids - "there's a solution to every problem"...

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

ALL shot clocks MUST display the tenths of a second (i.e. 35.0, 34.9, 34.8, etc) AND the 10-sec violation will be called when a full :10 have elapsed as determined by the shot clock.

But when it shows 25.0, does that mean that it's less than 25.1 but hasn't hit 25 yet? Maybe we should wait till it gets to 24.9.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

Let's kill two birds with one stone and submit a new rule for 2006-2007:

ALL shot clocks MUST display the tenths of a second (i.e. 35.0, 34.9, 34.8, etc) AND the 10-sec violation will be called when a full :10 have elapsed as determined by the shot clock.

Now there will be no argument from any coaches, players, or officials that when the shot clock shows 25.5 remaining, everyone will know that only 9.5 seconds have elapsed (and therefore NO violation has occurred).

I hope everyone feels better now. Just like I tell my kids - "there's a solution to every problem"...

So we should watch the clock instead of the play?
I just think that is a can of worms, as there is never perfect harmony with the chopping of time and the start of the clock.

[tomegun]

This is great. Argue about it enough and it will be second nature in a game.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

So we should watch the clock instead of the play?

It is possible to watch both, usually.

[jeffpea]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

So we should watch the clock instead of the play?
I just think that is a can of worms, as there is never perfect harmony with the chopping of time and the start of the clock.

We already look/glance at several different things during a play. This is not that difficult a task to accomplish with a tremendously high degree of accuracy.

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by tomegun

So if someone else talks about it, it is silly. But, if Chuck anyone gives detailed VALID information...

GOT IT!

Now you got it.