How many technicals have you called this year?

[Dibbs]

H.S only 45 games

0 Coaches
0 administrative
1 Player, slamming ball on the wall
this was a boring year

[rockyroad]

I gotta agree with Tony...why are we counting these? Is it like a hunter coming out of the woods with the trophy buck tied to the hood of the pick-up? I certainly hope not...on the other hand, if I said I had zero T's so far this year with three or four games left to go, does that mean I'm not as "good" as someone who has 7 or 8??? Again, I hope not...I really don't get this thread - a T is just like any other call. Call it when you need to, don't when you don't need to...why the fascination with T's???

[lmeadski]

Originally posted by rockyroad
I gotta agree with Tony...why are we counting these? Is it like a hunter coming out of the woods with the trophy buck tied to the hood of the pick-up? I certainly hope not...on the other hand, if I said I had zero T's so far this year with three or four games left to go, does that mean I'm not as "good" as someone who has 7 or 8??? Again, I hope not...I really don't get this thread - a T is just like any other call. Call it when you need to, don't when you don't need to...why the fascination with T's???

Rocky, no fascination. Just sharing experiences. I don't think any of us judge each other by the number of Ts we dole out. But, there are usually some interesting stories and scenarios that accompany technicals.

[rockyroad]

Originally posted by lmeadski

Rocky, no fascination. Just sharing experiences. I don't think any of us judge each other by the number of Ts we dole out. But, there are usually some interesting stories and scenarios that accompany technicals.

Ok, I can buy that...and I love a good "whack" story as much as the next ref, but then why wasn't the thread titled "Any Good T Stories" instead of "How many T's"???

Look, it really isn't a big deal to me...but we all know that there are officials who keep count and put notches on their gun handles (as someone else already put it)...just don't like that mentality.

[Rich]

Originally posted by rockyroad
I gotta agree with Tony...why are we counting these? Is it like a hunter coming out of the woods with the trophy buck tied to the hood of the pick-up? I certainly hope not...on the other hand, if I said I had zero T's so far this year with three or four games left to go, does that mean I'm not as "good" as someone who has 7 or 8??? Again, I hope not...I really don't get this thread - a T is just like any other call. Call it when you need to, don't when you don't need to...why the fascination with T's???

Too much Kool-Aid being passed around in this thread, IMO. T's are NOT, NOT, NOT like any other call, regardless of how many clinicians say so. Usually there's emotions running high on the coach's part and many times on the official's part (unless the official is a robot). How emotional is an out of bounds or traveling call?

I remember how many technicals I call, but usually forget by the next season. They are rare enough in my world that each one takes up a portion of my memory. I remember them not because I want to relive the glory of putting my hands together and awarding free throws, but because I want to remember how I handled situations.

2 Ts this season. One was a cumulative thing where the coach was talked to by all three of us during the first half. We talked about it at halftime and after the first foul in the second half, the coach called one of my partner's "ridiculous" while I was C in front of him. The other was a gesture made to my partner's back while I was coming up on the bench as the T tableside.

Remembering these doesn't mean I'm a gunslinger. It means I looked back to determine if the Ts were justified. They were. Both coaches, in retrospect, probably wanted one.

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by Rich Fronheiser

Too much Kool-Aid being passed around in this thread, IMO. T's are NOT, NOT, NOT like any other call, regardless of how many clinicians say so. Usually there's emotions running high on the coach's part and many times on the official's part (unless the official is a robot). How emotional is an out of bounds or traveling call?

I remember how many technicals I call, but usually forget by the next season. They are rare enough in my world that each one takes up a portion of my memory. I remember them not because I want to relive the glory of putting my hands together and awarding free throws, but because I want to remember how I handled situations.

2 Ts this season. One was a cumulative thing where the coach was talked to by all three of us during the first half. We talked about it at halftime and after the first foul in the second half, the coach called one of my partner's "ridiculous" while I was C in front of him. The other was a gesture made to my partner's back while I was coming up on the bench as the T tableside.

Remembering these doesn't mean I'm a gunslinger. It means I looked back to determine if the Ts were justified. They were. Both coaches, in retrospect, probably wanted one.

I agree. Even if a T is given in a cold manner (which is how I handle them) they are still unusual because there's a chance you'll be talking to your boss after the game about it, especially if you bang a coach. Or at least the R who'll want to know what happened for when he talks to the assignor. (This assumes your assignor actually gives a sh1t, some just don't.) Sometimes T's come in streaks, I know if I get a string of games where I'm T'ing people up I think about why and if I could have handled anything differently. In this respect T's are different from other calls as well, at least for me.

But on the other hand if you do give a T it should be considered as just another call, at least to the person getting it.

So I guess my point is I agree T's are a different type of call but they are not a big deal in the sense that once you find yourself at the point where it's gonna help the game you just take care of business.

If any of that makes sense...

[Edited by Dan_ref on Mar 1st, 2006 at 12:42 PM]

[M&M Guy]

Originally posted by Dan_ref
If any of that makes sense...

No.

(But I do agree with your ramblings.)

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by M&M Guy

No.

(But I do agree with your ramblings.)

OK wiseguy.

No jello pudding for you!

[M&M Guy]

Originally posted by Dan_ref
OK wiseguy.

No jello pudding for you!

I'm gonna tell Bill Cosby on you!

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Sometimes T's come in streaks, I know if I get a string of games where I'm T'ing people up I think about why and if I could have handled anything differently.

I know this feeling. http://www.officialforum.com/thread/3418

[Dan_ref]

Dec 2001?

Do you have a dedicated server with 100 GB hard drive to catalog all your forum posts?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by Dan_ref

Dec 2001?

Do you have a dedicated server with 100 GB hard drive to catalog all your forum posts?

As a matter of fact......

Chuck just started another sabbatical to work on his latest scholary tome "My Greatest Posts". Edition 1, of course.

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

As a matter of fact......

Chuck just started another sabbatical to work on his latest scholary tome "My Greatest Posts". Edition 1, of course.

Here are some of the better ones:

[bdub712]

In 58 high school games this season...ZERO

25 JV games...
30 V games...
3 playoff games...

[blindzebra]

In order:

Player for clapping after an opposing player fouled out, my partner had the other team's coach earlier.

Player again for clapping in the face of the kid that had just fouled him.

Frosh coach AFTER THE GAME for an ejection, when he chased us off the floor.

Player for dropping an F-bomb about a call.

Player for dropping an F-bomb at an opposing player.

Coach for coming on the floor, screaming at my partner, 20 seconds after I'd given him the stop sign.

Player for throwing the ball into the chest of an opposing player, after a made FT and the shooting team had the ball OOB and the other team came to inbound it.

The last 4 came on consecutive nights with the last 3 happening in one game, a regional final.

7, which is high for me, I have been having around 1 or 2 a season for the past couple of years. I guess the law of averages caught up with me.