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Last night I called a blocking foul on a drive by player A to the basket. The foul was clearly before the shot so I waved the shot off. A1 took a shot and scored a layup. I waved it off and gave Team A a throw-in. At half time one of my partners, a very experienced official, recommended to me that in this situation I hold my whistle until A1 takes the shot. If she makes it, as she did in case, ignore the contact and let A have their two points. If she misses it, call the foul. I agree with this principle and I think this is one thing that separates some officials from being good and being really good. I am not at the level yet where I can see this happen and hold the whistle but I will try. My question, however, is:
What if you ignore the intial contact and A1 misses the layup. You then blow the whistle. Since you know that the contact occurred before the shot how do you handle it, go ahead and shoot two free throws or call it a foul with no shot and give a throw-in? If you do this I am sure Team A's coach is not going to be happy. The coach is going to want free throws because it certainly will look like you are calling the foul on the shot. I forgot to ask this question to my partner so I would like your thoughts on how to handle this situation correctly. |
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I'm not a big fan of this practice.
You can't assign two shots, as the foul did not occur on a shooter. You either pass on the foul, or call it. I think it looks bad to "go back" and call the foul that happened before the shot. Perhaps in some cases, only a small amount of time exists between the two events, and your "delayed whistle" can be justified, but when that time difference is too great, you gotta pass on the foul once you've passed on it.
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I just usually do this, and I tend not to have a problem!
"Coach, I was gonna pass on that call, I decided that I could not, 2 shots" I have not had a problem when I say this, coaches realize that I was going to suck on my whistle, and I decided not to. I think they will respect you more, because your giving the players a chance to play. While still not letting players gain advantages over the other. |
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I would advise you to get a tape of the game and review this play. You might get a different look that will tell you how to make this call next time.
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This whole issue about holding the whistle is about timing the call. In your situation (I wish I could see it), it sounds as if it happend in this order: A1 goes to the hoop, gets fouled, your whistle, her shot, basket goes in. I don't see how you could use a delayed whistle on this play. Either you must call the foul when it occurs, or, no foul at all and let her continue the play. You already have given her a chance to complete her play by letting the initial foul go. Why would I wait to blow the whistle to see if she could finish the play? Doesn't this give way too much advantage/benefit of the doubt to A1? If she can't finish I am supposed to call a foul? If she makes the hoop, no foul? I could see delaying the whistle a wee bit if you are unclear if she is in the act of shooting, which, would give you the opportunity to award 2 FT vs a throw in. But, if the player is not in the act of shooting when she is fouled, why delay the whistle? The shot goes in: and one. They shot doesn't go in, 2 FT. What am I missing here?
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How is it penalizing the defense? If the contact doesn't create an advantage, how is it a foul? Because the defense doesn't want to give up an easy layup? I don't think it penalizes defense. I think it's prevents rewarding poor defense.
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In my view, if the defense wants to foul, that should be honored. It makes for a truer game. [Edited by bob jenkins on Feb 5th, 2006 at 12:29 AM]
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