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If any one of you knows how your state assigns and ranks officials for your state tournaments, please email the process to me. I am trying to gather information on how other states assign their tournaments. I know how Indiana does it...but I would like to know how other states accomplish this. I realize this might take a little time to actually get me an accurate/detailed response, but I would REALLY appreciate any help you could get me! You can send your response to [email protected]. Thanks in advance to anyone who responds! Tony, Mick, JR, and similar old vets, I'd REALLY like to hear from you!
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Still haven't figured out CO
But in Kansas, the coaches recommend you. I have yet to figure out Colorado's good 'ol system! I believe that the activities association assigns the games (DUH!) Well, if they never see you work then you never get assigned the state tournament. I don't live in the Denver area so the chances of them seeing me work are slim to none! Unless... there is another way they assign! And, there probably is! Can anyone help ME out and explain CO?
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In MA, each coach puts 5 or 10 (I can't remember which) acceptable officials on a list. The tournament assignor then draws from that pool of officials, I guess, trying to match "acceptable" refs with the coaches that listed them.
That only goes so far, tho, b/c once you get to the state semis, the teams are matched with teams from another area of the state. Those coaches have never seen our refs, and our coaches have never seen their refs. So I don't know how it works for those matchups.
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In Montana, the selection is made by the MOA office using a combination of the following; Coaches ballot, individual pool rankings and MOA office input. They can take into account geographical limitations.
Also, an official can only work the same classification for two consecutive years at the same level, (District, Divisional, State). In practice, it comes down to Coaches selection and who is available. MOA office will break any ties based on availability and the local pool rankings, which may be different from pool to pool. |
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In VA, at least in northern VA, the coaches have absolutely no input as to who goes to state. Coaches do not rate officials, but a coach can "scratch" 2 officials at the start of the season. According to my assignor, he sends a listing of 10-12 officials to the state office and the state makes the decision.
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In Illnois, each coach and fellow official can rate an official based on observation. Additionally, each coach, conference assignor, and officials association submits a Top 15 list to the state office. Using all of that info., the IHSA uses a mathematical formula to rank every official in the state (1 to whatever). The higher you are ranked, the more rounds of play you are assigned to. The initial rounds are geographically assigned (meaning you are working at Regional sites in your immediate area).
FYI - in 04-05: + 69% of coaches submitted ratings for games played. + Losing coaches rated (on a scale of 1 to 5 - 1 being outstanding) game officials 2.68 VS. winning coaches 2.5 (only .18 difference - not a significant difference). + Only 2.96% of coaches felt a "call or no call" decided a game. If interested, I can forward a PowerPoint presentation that the IHSA put together that explains, in detail, the process. Shoot me an email: [email protected] and I'll send it to you.
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Our rating system is only one or two things that make up our playoff considerations. We have a power rating that uses the following.
1. Promotional level 2. Part 1 Exam score 3. Previous tournament experience 4. All ratings (coaches and certified officials) 5. Number of varsity games worked (based on percentage) 6. Top 15 Lists (associations, assignors and schools) Each of these have a total of 5 points you can get for achieving certain levels (total 30 points) Also many more things are factored in like geographic area, promotional levels, (Certified first, Recognized second, Registered last), clinic attendance, years of experience, boys and girls basketball worked and even class you have worked. The PowerPoint Presentation is a better resource, but there is much more to our system than ratings. Also the IHSA next year will change the clinic requirements for playoff consideration. It will be a must that you attend a Class 2 Clinic in order to work any post season. Peace
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It rewards officials who attend clinics every year instead of just the minimum (one every three years). |
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