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Maybe you mean to use the word "volume" instead of "area"?? If not then I admit you have sure confused the heck out of me.
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Anyway, I would think if the officials on that game had to deal with it if the shoe had contacted (heavy-handedly? grooooooan!) another player, I would think the whistle would've blown, someone would be pointing OOB, play would be held up a little while the kid put his shoe back on, (we probably would've had yet ANOTHER pic of Huggins in the stands), and away we go. That's what separates them from us, I guess. I sat there in the chair, and did not know what to do. I wonder what I would've come up with in an actual game situation. Now, back to your original program, "Professors Chuck and Dan Discuss Grade School Geometry".
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We were instructed in our meeting on Wednesday evening that the SWEAT bands can be worn wherever, but only one per limb. [/B][/QUOTE]That ruling makes absolutely zero sense to me. If you're gonna interpret a rule to say that wearing wristbands or sweatbands anywhere on the body is legal, then under what authority can someone then making up a new rule restricting a player to one per limb? That ruling is completely illogical imo. If a player does wear 2 on a limb and that player refuses to take one off when told to, what rule in the book are you gonna use to enforce your edict? What rule do you cite to the coach when he asks why it's legal for his player to wear one, but it's illegal for his player to wear two? But, it is what it is and you gotta follow it. Dumb as it is. |
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This is an interesting dicussion
So Mick, you're looking at it kind of like swinging elbows or striking with a fist (as far as rules that this is kind of like), that the act is potentially dangerous, even if contact isn't made (as in swinging elbows)? Rainmaker, I had missed that part of the rule. Thanks. That kind of deflates any objections about a shoe being legal equipment. However, the rules still specify no penalty or remedy for not wearing a shoe properly, though the jersey rule is a useful analogue, I think. Originally I had thought I might pass on contact with the shoe if it didn't extend the player's reach. I don't buy Chuck's "volume" justification, but I think he's probably right nonetheless. Any contact with the shoe is going to raise all kinds of red flags with a lot of people: players, coaches, fans, partners. It just isn't how basketball is supposed to be played. So we probably have to stop play if any "interesting" contact with that shoe occurs. But I'm not sure I agree with POI. Depends on the situation, I guess. If he uses it on defense, and the offense has possession, it makes sense to give it back to the offense, so POI works there. If he blocks a shot with it, I don't feel right going to the arrow. It feels like he's done something wrong and the ball ought to go back to the shooting team. OTOH, there is rules support for POI (in general, not in this specific case) and none for a violation. But I still think it ought to go back to the shooter. As I was once told, "If you don't know what to do, do what's fair." If you throw goaltending or BI into this situation, I think the shoe is ignored and the violation called. Would anybody think some kind of "preventive officiating" approach to prevent this would be advisable? Maybe as the kid with the shoe runs by ask him to give it to you? Maybe just holler "shoe," and hold your hands out, asking him to toss it to you?
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