PEEWEE gone bad

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

Is this your vote for who's behind the mom troll?

[Junker]

I think (not speaking for him, I wouldn't presume to do so) the point Rut is trying to make is that many, including me, do not believe 4th graders need to be in competitive games. They do not, in most cases, possess the physical abilities or skills needed to play an actual game of basketball. I am not a believer in having these types of players put into a competetive environment. They have not had the practice to prepare them for such an environment. I think rather than have games with officials, scorers, and fans, why not have an open gym with some scrimmage time? Bring in coaches and some actual officials (if available) to help teach the game. Let them learn and practice the skills without winning and losing coming into play. Every official I've ever talked to says that sportsmanship gets worse the lower you go as far as levels. I believe this is because fans and coaches expect the game to look like what they see in a high school gym or in a college game on TV. That is simply impossible due to the skill level of the players. I think leagues such as this take the fun out of the game. I learned to play by playing. We played pick up games all day long. If you won, great, if you lost...well, you played harder the next game. You did not have parents complaining that you lost because an official was one-sided. You lost because the other team played better. I think with all of the lower level leagues forming, the players don't learn to enjoy the game for what it is...a game.

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by momstwo
Just another ref: No! Actually I wouldn't. I was just tired of him slamming the younger teams. I had a really hard time trying to hold my tongue and just accept what everyone was saying, but being told that no one cares about the 4th grade teams was getting a little old.

Then go away and you will not have to worry about it. I know when I was a kid I did not live for that level of ball and I cannot tell you what those games were like or what the score was. If it is getting old to you, go away and teach your kid things that will really shape their life.

Originally posted by momstwo
I believe the truly good officals care about all the teams the WNBA and the Peewee teams.

You can believe all you want. The reality is most officials that have any experience do not go around worrying about the outcomes of JH games. I belong to 3 different official's groups, we do not spend our time talking about PeeWee games (in any sport actually). The WNBA does not have a problem with officials caring or not caring about that league, the general public does not care about the league. Most officials here do not care about what goes on in the NBA.

Originally posted by momstwo
I just didnt know it was such a crime to question a refs calls.

Are you going to jail? I do not recall that anyone is prosecuting with a crime.

Many of us are having fun at your expense. I know I am. You come here creating a game that rivals a soccer score as if there was some nefarious reason for the officials to not do the right thing. I find it funny when parents like you really think we all care that your kid lost a game. Most kids lose games at some point. They are not going to slit their wrists over the tragic event. If you were a responsible parent, you would teach your kid that they are going fail more times than they will succeed. When they fail they should take lessons from it and learn so the next time they are prepared and can have a better chance to be successful in the long run. Instead you have made this about the officials or someone else other than where the responsibility should fall. Let the kids have fun and stop making these games about someone else. You probably never played a game your entire life and you are now traumatizing your kid by not letting them have a little fun. The game is supposed to be fun. Life is supposed to be fun. I know this thread is fun.

Peace

[rockyroad]

Ok, ok, my turn...momstwo, I have three sons, and all three of them play sports - mostly football (one in High School, the other two still on Youth teams)...I am also a ref (and I know that some discount that because I do NCAA Women's ball instead of Men's) so my wife and I have always had a rule with our sons - they ALWAYS shake the official's hand and tell them "Thank you, sir/ma'am) after every game...and while we have had discussions about bad calls in the car on the way home, because my kids shook their hands, they realized that those refs were people, and people make mistakes, and there is really NOTHING they or their parents can do about that except play harder the next game. That's the bottom line...

[just another ref]

All you 9 year old kids out there, go look up the word insufferable in the dictionary.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by Dan_ref

Is this your vote for who's behind the mom troll?

I'm just wondering when everybody is gonna figure out that Mummy really is a troll- just a-yanking their little chains away.

Mummy has been constantly posting since 10pm est. last night- all through the whole night- and Mummy was still posting at 10am est this morning. If Mummy really had kids, Mummy would sureashell need to get some sleep. Mummies get tired playing Mummy all day long. Mummies then have to get up and get the little sh!ts dressed, fed and off to school,etc. Unless Mummy was a speed freak, I don't think that Mummy really is a Mummy.

Mummy is one fine, world-class troll.

Good job, Mummy. Change your name and come back again sometime. This has been amusing as hell.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by rockyroad
I am also a ref (and I know that some discount that because I do NCAA Women's ball instead of Men's)..

Consider the source and ignore/forget about it, Rocky. Waste of time.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by rockyroad
I am also a ref (and I know that some discount that because I do NCAA Women's ball instead of Men's)

Not me, rock. I hope my "edgy" comments didn't give you that impression.

[JCrow]

I can't believe it......I got hosed along with everybody else.....sob...

[momstwo]

This was fun but now its not. TROLL what a dipsh!t. Speed freak..Whatever! I wasnt on all night. But okay heres my final comments to all the idiots on this site who are rude and disrespectful. GET A LIFE YOURSELF!!! Your "holy than thou" complex is a little old. You make mistakes own up to and go on and do what your paid to do. Make fair calls and remember whos padding your pockets, cause if some of you are not to old to keep up you'll be seeing our fourth graders soon. Lots of Love and May you be blessed with the same type of pleasantness that you give to others.
RUT: When you have children look me up THEN AND ONLY THEN will I even consider you opinion.

[Junker]

We are not holier than thou, we just are trained understand the game of basketball better from an officials point of view. As I said earlier, we never heard any specifics. Without specific plays, you sound (even if you claim you're not) like a disgruntled parent putting too much emphasis on winning and losing in a lower level game featuring players that should be learning the game, not learning to blame others for a loss.

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by momstwo

RUT: When you have children look me up THEN AND ONLY THEN will I even consider you opinion.

Why would I call you? You are the worst example of a parent. I have plenty of better role models around me and you are not one of them.

Peace

[daveg144]

Wow. I think everyone needs to lighten up a little. This thread has gotten way out of hand.

[fref]

I learned the hard way - NEVER ARGUE WITH PARENTS (FANS)! You can NEVER win. That philosophy has once again been proven accurate.

[rockyroad]

Originally posted by ChuckElias

Not me, rock. I hope my "edgy" comments didn't give you that impression.

No, no, no...it was someone else in a different thread. Us short guys gotta stick together!