moving the cheerleaders - Page 2

Ray_from_Mi · #1 (**permalink**) Mon Jan 22, 2007, 03:25pm

I do as Zebraman has said, see the captain before the game starts and have them stand away from the sideline. When it comes to baseline, I tell them curl no further than the 3-point arc. I believe its important to do these things and here is why. This happened some tears ago, but the point remains the same. a official was running down the sideline focusing on the fast break (this was in two-man days) and BAM! right into a cheerleader on the sideline/floor. She wound up getting her arm broken and the parents were in the process of suing the official. Who would have thought that was going to be the outcome?

tomegun · #2 (**permalink**) Mon Jan 22, 2007, 04:12pm

How about, "Move back?"

About 4 years ago, one of my partners asked the cheerleaders to move and they called him an A hole. He gave a T for that one.

That was the talk at the bar that night. Oh, he had game admin remove someone for using a bullhorn and calling him an A hole too. As the kid was leaving (he left the bullhorn), the gyme is quiet and someone (who now has the bullhorn) says, "You're still an A hole." Nice! I helped get him beat all the traffic.

Totally OT. One official from Vegas had a whole section removed. He told game admin, "From there to there is out of here." I don't remember what they did, but it is funny because this guy is very cool. Nevada probably knows him - he is the most naturally talented official I have ever seen in my life.

IREFU2 · #3 (**permalink**) Mon Jan 22, 2007, 04:15pm

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Originally Posted by tomegun

How about, "Move back?"

About 4 years ago, one of my partners asked the cheerleaders to move and they called him an A hole. He gave a T for that one.

That was the talk at the bar that night. Oh, he had game admin remove someone for using a bullhorn and calling him an A hole too. As the kid was leaving (he left the bullhorn), the gyme is quiet and someone (who now has the bullhorn) says, "You're still an A hole." Nice! I helped get him beat all the traffic.

Totally OT. One official from Vegas had a whole section removed. He told game admin, "From there to there is out of here." I don't remember what they did, but it is funny because this guy is very cool. Nevada probably knows him - he is the most naturally talented official I have ever seen in my life.

I started to do this in one of my games earlier in the year. There was a hole side of fans trying to be like the Dukies! They were being annoying and disrupting. I stopped the game and told GM that they needed to shut up or leave, the whole section. It was about 8 rows of them. Needless to say, they shut up!

Raymond · #4 (**permalink**) Mon Jan 22, 2007, 04:51pm

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Originally Posted by IREFU2

I started to do this in one of my games earlier in the year. There was a hole side of fans trying to be like the Dukies! They were being annoying and disrupting. I stopped the game and told GM that they needed to shut up or leave, the whole section. It was about 8 rows of them. Needless to say, they shut up!

What's school was that? Not HRA, was it?

cford · #5 (**permalink**) Fri Jan 13, 2006, 09:20am

I was stretching before a game last year where I pulled my foot behind me and it ended up between a cheerleader's legs. Needless to say she was pretty embarrassed

. I learned to look behind me before stretching on the court.

I have also heard from different officials that the cheerleaders must not be underneath the basket. It sounds like they are not allowed anywhere on the endline (if they are standing).

RookieDude · #6 (**permalink**) Fri Jan 13, 2006, 09:43am

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Originally posted by cford
I learned to look behind me before stretching on the court.

I try to do my stretching in the locker room...in fact, I believe the NFHS Officials Manual suggests not to do stretching on the court.

BktBallRef · #7 (**permalink**) Fri Jan 13, 2006, 10:54am

Strectching on the court. Hmmmm...I don't think so.

cford · #8 (**permalink**) Fri Jan 13, 2006, 11:11am

I try to stretch before I'm on the court but sometimes I'll work out some kinks.

cdaref · #9 (**permalink**) Fri Jan 13, 2006, 11:55am

The Spirit manual says they cant be along the end line between the freethrow lane extended. That is the only restriction in their manual.

And yeah, warm up in the locker room. I hate seeing officials stretching on the court. Looks bad. But some jurisdictions seem to care more than others. I've seen varsity officials do it a bit here where in my old jurisdiction there is no way taht would ever have been tolerated.

assignmentmaker · #10 (**permalink**) Fri Jan 13, 2006, 04:07pm

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Originally posted by cdaref
Thanks everyone.

I saw 2-3, but that is pretty generic. I was hoping no to have to hang my hat on that. However, I imagine no one would get pissed if my ruling was that the cheerleaders were interfering with my ability to call the game, observe violations and fouls, etc.

I was just hoping for a clearer statement somewhere.

I will check local association rules, too. Good suggestion.

Its funny. I've never really had this before. This is my first year with a new association (I moved). The cheerleaders here really like to be on the baseline. And I mean close to the baseline.

[Edited by cdaref on Jan 12th, 2006 at 05:45 PM]

All you know on Earth and all you need to know, I would suggest, is that the idea is to get a fair game. If the cheerleaders are interfering with that - say by getting in your way - you have the authority (you ARE a member of the Rule 2.3 Club, aren't you?) to have the site manager take care of the site.

That being said, cajoling cheerleaders can work, too.

26 Year Gap · #11 (**permalink**) Fri Jan 13, 2006, 05:52pm

"You can always tell a cheerleader, but you can't tell them much."

dave30 · #12 (**permalink**) Mon Jan 16, 2006, 04:45am

I have never had a problem with cheerleaders not responding to my request (not since high school anyway!), but that was a different request then ! Anyway, if you compliment them first, they will do anything for you. Example: "You girls are doing a good job, but I hope I don't accidentally run over one of you. You might want to take a couple steps back....thanks a lot....let's see a pyramid or some flips later....".... main thing is: just be friendly, but let them know who the boss is on the court in a nice non-threatening way.... they will respond favorably 99.9% of the time.

Raymond · #13 (**permalink**) Fri Jan 19, 2007, 09:12am

Cheerleaders last night were no problem. But I heard a cheer that made me laugh.

Girls Varsity.

I call a travel on a girl right in front of the opposing cheerleaders. Just as I'm about to bounce the ball to the thrower-in I hear this cheer from the sideline: "You travel, you travel, you walkkkkk too much!" I couldn't help but laugh.

In the 2nd half I called another travel. As I'm coming back as the new lead the cheerleaders are doing the same cheer, except this time while singing the "you travel" verse they are doing the traveling mechanic, and then for the "you walkkkk too much!" verse they march in step up the sideline.

But I guess karma came back to bite them in the butt, b/c the cheerleaders' team lost by 3 points and committed two travelling violations in the last minute of the game.

Ignats75 · #14 (**permalink**) Fri Jan 19, 2007, 09:20am

There are a couple of smaller gyms where there is no room for the cheerleaders except along the baseline. I generally try to warn them that I'm alot bigger than they are (they're cheerleaders, I need to explain it

) and I won't be the one hurt if I run into them. One game, during a fastbreak, I was running down the sideline looking over my shoulder and steamrolled one girl. Thank the Lord she wasn't seriously hurt. They stayed out of my way after that.

SmokeEater · #15 (**permalink**) Fri Jan 19, 2007, 09:23am

NCAA rules, court diagram shows a minimum 3 ft of unobstructed space along the sidelines (preferred 10 ft) and 6 ft along the end lines.