Coaching Box Issue??

[mick]

Originally posted by Nate1224hoops

Wow, why the sacastic answer? I am just trying to find out if there is a cut and dry answer to my question about the box. If you had read the entire post you would know that I had to put my own tape down. I just wanted to know if anyone had a RULE BOOK answer as to what has to be done in the case that the boxes arent marked.

Next time I'll phone ahead Mick to see if they have the box marked or some tape I can use. That was about the only four-year old response I have gotten so far!!!

Making the phone call would be better than removing the net from one end.
mick

[Kelvin green]

Nate it is not our job to mark floors, just like it is not our job to wipe the floor, clean up blood.

We can assist, but in the pregame meeting tell them there are no boxes and without a box they will sit. Then offer that if they have tape you can show them where the boxes are and they can tape it for both teams.

[Nate1224hoops]

Originally posted by mick

Making the phone call would be better than removing the net from one end.
mick

I was asking what would be the difference. If you show up to my home court and there are no coaching boxes and I show up to yours and there is no net. Both are lack of preparation on the home team. I was simply asking the question to some of you more veteran officials as to how you handle the situaiton when there are no coaches boxes marked...thats all.

[ChrisSportsFan]

Originally posted by mick

Making the phone call would be better than removing the net from one end.
mick

SMDPOAOMM (spit my Dr. Pepper out all over my monitor) Now I'm ROFLMAO

[Nate1224hoops]

Originally posted by Kelvin green
Nate it is not our job to mark floors, just like it is not our job to wipe the floor, clean up blood.

We can assist, but in the pregame meeting tell them there are no boxes and without a box they will sit. Then offer that if they have tape you can show them where the boxes are and they can tape it for both teams.

Thanks. What would you do in the case that the home coach was lazy and didnt want to bother but the vistiing coach wants a box. Would you assist in marking both, just visitors or neither?? Should the visting coach be punished because home team didnt prepare for the game correctly??

[Kelvin green]

Originally posted by Nate1224hoops

Thanks. What would you do in the case that the home coach was lazy and didnt want to bother but the vistiing coach wants a box. Would you assist in marking both, just visitors or neither?? Should the visting coach be punished because home team didnt prepare for the game correctly??

It is up to the home team to mark the floors. If they say we dont have a box and we dont want tape on our floors to mark a box, then there is no box. If the visiting team says we have tape and we'll mark both and the home team allows then it is ok, if they refuse then like I said no box.

[BktBallRef]

Nate, your question has been answered over and over again. if there's no coaching box, BOTH coaches sit. That's by the rule that JR posted. If you want to ask the home team to mark boxes, that's fine. But if the choose not to, then the coaching boxes do not exist. If they do not exist, coaches have to sit. That's by rule.

[Nate1224hoops]

Originally posted by Kelvin green

It is up to the home team to mark the floors. If they say we dont have a box and we dont want tape on our floors to mark a box, then there is no box. If the visiting team says we have tape and we'll mark both and the home team allows then it is ok, if they refuse then like I said no box.

Thanks

[ChrisSportsFan]

Originally posted by Nate1224hoops

Thanks. What would you do in the case that the home coach was lazy and didnt want to bother but the vistiing coach wants a box. Would you assist in marking both, just visitors or neither?? Should the visting coach be punished because home team didnt prepare for the game correctly??

If the AD says "there ain't goin-be no box", then I suppose that's how it's gonna be tonight. The visiting coach may not like it but dems-da-berries.

[mj]

In Wisconsin, if they boxes aren't there and the host school for some reason has no tape laying around to get it done before tip-off, neither team gets to use one. I have never had it happen though.

Consider yourself lucky too, it is only used in varsity games here.

[Mark Dexter]

Really wish I had insisted on putting something down for a box before my last game. Freshmen boys - figured I could just wing it.

Well, home coach thinks he's entitled to use the ENTIRE bench (chairs stretching from the endline up to the scorer's table), I look over and realize he's standing, basically even with the lower block of the FT lane. I motion him back and tell him he can't be down that far.

Few plays later, I notice him there again - give him another point back to where the coaching box should be.

Ball goes OOB, home team gets the throw in their backcourt (1st half still), and the coach wanted to talk to one of his players. Instead of having the player come to the edge of the court, he comes on to the court. I go over, give him the stop sign, and tell him that he cannot come onto the court. I then pointed out his last player on the bench and told him he could go that far (even though it was probably too big of a box) and that this was his last warning.

Of course, later in the game, he's way down at the end of the bench, so I assessed the technical. Only problem - I reported it for "being out of the coaching box" only to get everyone giving me the look of "What the bruce are you talking about? There isn't a coaching box."

[DownTownTonyBrown]

The Coaching box allowance entered the rules several years back. The floors should be permanently marked by now. No mark ==> No box ==> no allowance ==> Tape! No way.

If the school wants a box, they need to paint them on the floor. The idea of allowing one coach to have a box and the other to not have one is also ridiculous. Both or neither. And just cause you have one doen't mean you have to use it.

Box... shmox.

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by DownTownTonyBrown
The Coaching box allowance entered the rules several years back. The floors should be permanently marked by now. No mark ==> No box ==> no allowance ==> Tape! No way.

If the school wants a box, they need to paint them on the floor. The idea of allowing one coach to have a box and the other to not have one is also ridiculous. Both or neither. And just cause you have one doen't mean you have to use it.

Box... shmox.

That might work well where you live, that does not apply in my state or any other state. Tape is allowed and all games are not played on HS floors. So your theory about not having a painted box would not fly here.

Peace

[Nate1224hoops]

Originally posted by JRutledge

That might work well where you live, that does not apply in my state or any other state. Tape is allowed and all games are not played on HS floors. So your theory about not having a painted box would not fly here.

Peace

His theory that all coaches boxes must be painted or there is none wouldnt fly in any state if he were reported. Of course some gyms do not have a box painted on the floor. All HS floors should have the box painted but most ES may not and our JV and V both play at both gyms.

POWER TRIP!!!!

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by Nate1224hoops


His theory that all coaches boxes must be painted or there is none wouldnt fly in any state if he were reported. Of course some gyms do not have a box painted on the floor. All HS floors should have the box painted but most ES may not and our JV and V both play at both gyms.

POWER TRIP!!!!

Well there are floors that have the coaching box already on the floor, but unfortunately the floor does not match the state adopted rule. Many are only the 6 foot box which we do not use anymore. So they have to put tape down to comply with the current rule. You would be very lucky if you could get the secondary gym where many lower level games are played around here would even have a coaching box painted at all. Those are the facts and we were told to allow the schools to put down tape if they wanted to use the box. If the coaches did not want to use the coaching box at all that was fine too. They just had to have something down if they wanted to stand.

Peace