How should this situation be handled?

[SeanFitzRef]

A1 driving to basket, A5 sets a screen at the elbow, then dives down to the rim. B5 follows A5, and as A1 goes up to shoot, B5 pushes A5 in the back. A1 makes the layup. How do you administer form there?

Had this situation in a game last night, I will post how we handled it later.

[jr]

fed and ncaa rules...good basket, ball oob if not in bonus...1+1 or 2 shots if in bonus...

nba...good basket, a5 shoots 1...

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by SeanFitzRef
A1 driving to basket, A5 sets a screen at the elbow, then dives down to the rim. B5 follows A5, and as A1 goes up to shoot, B5 pushes A5 in the back. A1 makes the layup. How do you administer form there?

Had this situation in a game last night, I will post how we handled it later.

Count the basket by A1. Charge B5 with a personal foul. If team A is not in the bonus, they get a throw-in at the closest spot to where the foul occurred. If team A is in the bonus, A5 will get 1/1 or 2 ft's, depending on how many fouls team B has.

Rule 6-7EXCEPTION(c) and casebook play 6.7SitD are the rules references.

[mick]

Originally posted by SeanFitzRef
A1 driving to basket, A5 sets a screen at the elbow, then dives down to the rim. B5 follows A5, and as A1 goes up to shoot, B5 pushes A5 in the back. A1 makes the layup. How do you administer form there?

Had this situation in a game last night, I will post how we handled it later.

SeanFitzRef,
Did you adjudge the foul to be intentional, flagrant or common?
That will control the subsequent administration.
mick

[SeanFitzRef]

I called it as a common foul. Put A5 on the line for one shot (fubar'd it bad). Didn't get a chance to check the rule book (HAHAHA) until later in the evening. I originally had it correct to put the ball in play OOB, but changed it and still can't figure out why.

[mick]

Originally posted by SeanFitzRef
I called it as a common foul. Put A5 on the line for one shot (fubar'd it bad). Didn't get a chance to check the rule book (HAHAHA) until later in the evening. I originally had it correct to put the ball in play OOB, but changed it and still can't figure out why.

SeanFitzRef,
Well, ... you own that rule now, dontcha?
mick

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by SeanFitzRef
I called it as a common foul. Put A5 on the line for one shot

Got it right. . . if it were an NBA game.

[SeanFitzRef]

Originally posted by mick
SeanFitzRef,
Well, ... you own that rule now, dontcha?
mick

Yup!!!

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally posted by SeanFitzRef

Yup!!!

If you can keep the price down to just one screw-up per owned rule, you'll go far

[Rizzo21]

As some of you know, this is my first year and things are going ALMOST smoothly so far in girl’s b-ball (this is Michigan). I have freshman and JV games. Most of the games have gone well but two weeks ago I had a JV game that was down to the wire. Rivalry game, big crowd and the home coach was not happy with several of our calls. Under one minute to go, both teams in double bonus, home team takes ball out after a made free throw. Player A2 sets a screen for dribbler A1 in the backcourt and gives the old shove on B1. I call illegal screen and put B1 on the line. She misses the first and home coach is screaming at us to come over. I do and she (actually pretty calmly) asks me doesn’t the “team control” new rule apply. My heart sinks and I go to confer with my veteran partner (who didn’t catch it either). Needless to say, I put my tail between my legs, we took the girls off the line and gave the ball OOB to team B. That one stung for a couple days.

My head knew the rule all season but once the heat was turned up, I just plain dropped it. Hopefully it's a lesson learned to be more deliberate and slow down in these tight spots.

[JRutledge]

Rizzo21,

When did the contact take place? It would not be a team control foul if the throw in was still in progress. It is not clear to me when the illegal screen took place.

Peace

[mick]

Originally posted by JRutledge
Rizzo21,

When did the contact take place? It would not be a team control foul if the throw in was still in progress. It is not clear to me when the illegal screen took place.

Peace

Rut,
There was one dribbler dribbling ... and a partridge in a pear tree.
mick

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally posted by JRutledge
Rizzo21,

When did the contact take place? It would not be a team control foul if the throw in was still in progress. It is not clear to me when the illegal screen took place.

Peace

Based on the fact that the screen was set for dribbler A1, it sounds like it must have been after the throw-in had ended.

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by mick

Rut,
There was one dribbler dribbling ... and a partridge in a pear tree.
mick

Sheez, Rizzo didn't say anything about a partridge in a pear tree. Doesn't that change everything?

[M&M Guy]

Originally posted by rainmaker

Sheez, Rizzo didn't say anything about a partridge in a pear tree. Doesn't that change everything?

Especially if you're under the tree...

(Have you ever been around birds after they eat fruit?)