free throw lane issues - Page 7

Camron Rust · #91 (**permalink**) Sat May 14, 2005, 02:20am

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There is no more of a justification or need to issue a T for entering the lane or for requiring that either team pick their spots first.
... A T is overkill for this. Some action is necessary otherwise we'll be there for weeks.

10-1-5b. Delay the game by preventing the ball from being made promptly live or from being put in play.

This article goes on to mention the RPP, but that doesn't mean it applies only to the RPP. It clearly shows that it's a T to prevent the ball from becoming live.

They're not preventing it. That rule is for when a player grabs the ball after a made bucket and tosses it into the stands or to the other end of the floor or when a the ball is knocked OOB and then do something similar. It's not for being in the wrong location when the ref has the ball.

rainmaker · #92 (**permalink**) Sat May 14, 2005, 11:24am

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Originally posted by Camron Rust

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Originally posted by Camron Rust

There is no more of a justification or need to issue a T for entering the lane or for requiring that either team pick their spots first.
... A T is overkill for this. Some action is necessary otherwise we'll be there for weeks.

10-1-5b. Delay the game by preventing the ball from being made promptly live or from being put in play.

This article goes on to mention the RPP, but that doesn't mean it applies only to the RPP. It clearly shows that it's a T to prevent the ball from becoming live.

They're not preventing it. That rule is for when a player grabs the ball after a made bucket and tosses it into the stands or to the other end of the floor or when a the ball is knocked OOB and then do something similar. It's not for being in the wrong location when the ref has the ball.

Camron -- your lysdexia is showing. You've got your b's and d's mixed up. Item "d" is for "interfering with the ball following a goal after the team warning for this delay". I quoted item "b" which says nothing at all about a made basket or a warning. Furthermore item "b" does refer to the RPP which implies to me that it in fact applies to any time players are doing something which keeps them from being ready for the ball to be made live.

Camron Rust · #93 (**permalink**) Sat May 14, 2005, 06:15pm

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Originally posted by rainmaker

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Originally posted by rainmaker

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Originally posted by Camron Rust

There is no more of a justification or need to issue a T for entering the lane or for requiring that either team pick their spots first.
... A T is overkill for this. Some action is necessary otherwise we'll be there for weeks.

10-1-5b. Delay the game by preventing the ball from being made promptly live or from being put in play.

This article goes on to mention the RPP, but that doesn't mean it applies only to the RPP. It clearly shows that it's a T to prevent the ball from becoming live.

They're not preventing it. That rule is for when a player grabs the ball after a made bucket and tosses it into the stands or to the other end of the floor or when a the ball is knocked OOB and then do something similar. It's not for being in the wrong location when the ref has the ball.

Camron -- your lysdexia is showing. You've got your b's and d's mixed up. Item "d" is for "interfering with the ball following a goal after the team warning for this delay". I quoted item "b" which says nothing at all about a made basket or a warning. Furthermore item "b" does refer to the RPP which implies to me that it in fact applies to any time players are doing something which keeps them from being ready for the ball to be made live.

No, Juulie, I don't have them mixed up.

Item "b", while saying nothing about after a made goal, doesn't place any restrictions on when it may or may not occur. It may very well occur after a made basket.

Interfering with the ball is tapping it aside a bit to slow down the other team...a delay of game item. Item b is when they knock/throw it into the stands or the other end of the court...a technical foul

Camron Rust · #94 (**permalink**) Sat May 14, 2005, 06:16pm

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Originally posted by Camron Rust

There is no more of a justification or need to issue a T for entering the lane or for requiring that either team pick their spots first.
... A T is overkill for this. Some action is necessary otherwise we'll be there for weeks.

10-1-5b. Delay the game by preventing the ball from being made promptly live or from being put in play.

This article goes on to mention the RPP, but that doesn't mean it applies only to the RPP. It clearly shows that it's a T to prevent the ball from becoming live.

They're not preventing it. That rule is for when a player grabs the ball after a made bucket and tosses it into the stands or to the other end of the floor or when a the ball is knocked OOB and then do something similar. It's not for being in the wrong location when the ref has the ball.

Camron -- your lysdexia is showing. You've got your b's and d's mixed up. Item "d" is for "interfering with the ball following a goal after the team warning for this delay". I quoted item "b" which says nothing at all about a made basket or a warning. Furthermore item "b" does refer to the RPP which implies to me that it in fact applies to any time players are doing something which keeps them from being ready for the ball to be made live.

No, Juulie, I don't have them mixed up.

Item "b", while saying nothing about after a made goal, doesn't place any restrictions on when it may or may not occur. It may very well occur after a made basket.
Item b is when they knock/throw it into the stands or the other end of the court or hang onto the ball and refuse to give it to the official...a technical foul

Interfering with the ball is tapping it aside a bit to slow down the other team...a delay of game item.

rainmaker · #95 (**permalink**) Sat May 14, 2005, 07:17pm

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No, Juulie, I don't have them mixed up.

Item "b", while saying nothing about after a made goal, doesn't place any restrictions on when it may or may not occur.

No restrictions, eh? Then why doesn't it apply to the sitch under discussion?

Camron Rust · #96 (**permalink**) Sun May 15, 2005, 02:09am

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No, Juulie, I don't have them mixed up.

Item "b", while saying nothing about after a made goal, doesn't place any restrictions on when it may or may not occur.

No restrictions, eh? Then why doesn't it apply to the sitch under discussion?

It could. I had said it was overkill...not wrong. I believe there are better less heavy handed was to get them to stop being silly. It's not really a T-worthy behavior.

rainmaker · #97 (**permalink**) Sun May 15, 2005, 02:55am

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No, Juulie, I don't have them mixed up.

Item "b", while saying nothing about after a made goal, doesn't place any restrictions on when it may or may not occur.

No restrictions, eh? Then why doesn't it apply to the sitch under discussion?

It could. I had said it was overkill...not wrong. I believe there are better less heavy handed was to get them to stop being silly. It's not really a T-worthy behavior.

Here I am standing with the ball, and the darn players keep waltzing back and forth in front of me. I finally caution them, they settle down, and I administer the first free throw. As soon as the ball hits the rim, they are at it again. Before the ball gets back to me, I give them the look, say, "Knock it off!" and then catch teh ball. Now they step across yet again. What do you suggest??

Camron Rust · #98 (**permalink**) Mon May 16, 2005, 11:53am

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No, Juulie, I don't have them mixed up.

Item "b", while saying nothing about after a made goal, doesn't place any restrictions on when it may or may not occur.

No restrictions, eh? Then why doesn't it apply to the sitch under discussion?

It could. I had said it was overkill...not wrong. I believe there are better less heavy handed was to get them to stop being silly. It's not really a T-worthy behavior.

Here I am standing with the ball, and the darn players keep waltzing back and forth in front of me. I finally caution them, they settle down, and I administer the first free throw. As soon as the ball hits the rim, they are at it again. Before the ball gets back to me, I give them the look, say, "Knock it off!" and then catch teh ball. Now they step across yet again. What do you suggest??

Tell them ball is coming in, hold your spots, and bounce it to the shooter.

The mechanics manual assumes the players are not doing anything goofy. Take control when they're being goofy but don't throw the book at them.