Foul Language

[brainbrian]

Originally posted by ChrisSportsFan Is Whoming down near the Ozarks? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL [/B]

We saw the bigger ones in Wyoming.

[mplagrow]

Add JC to the list of "it's not what you say, it's how you say it. . ." I had a coach yell, "Jesus Christ! You guys haven't gotten a call right all night!"

[theboys]

Since we're on the foul language topic...

I was watching an AAU 17u game this weekend between two very good teams. Because the confines of the gym were, well, confined, you could easily hear anything said on the court, included the trash talk between the players.

With under a minute to go, A1 drove past B1 and made a lay-up to tie the score. B coach immediately called a time-out. Almost simultaneously, as A1 headed back up-court, he looked at B1, and said, "get up n*****!". The referee stopped A1 in his tracks, and said something along the lines of "If I have to tell you again to shut up, I'm going to T you up. Do you want to lose the game like that?"

Since both players were black, I thought the referee handled the situation appropriately, but it sure made you think about cultural differences, and what constitutes crossing the line.

Like, what if you were reffing in an atheist league, and one of the players said "GD". Would you give hime a T? Just kiddin'.

[tomegun]

Originally posted by theboys
Since both players were black,

Thank you for starting my week with a ridiculous comment and setting the bar pretty high for anything worse.

It doesn't matter that they were black or not. Kids of all colors use that word in these situations nowdays and it is stupid and wrong. Your way of thinking is unbelievable!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by tomegun

Thank you for starting my week with a ridiculous comment and setting the bar pretty high for anything worse.

It doesn't matter that they were black or not. Kids of all colors use that word in these situations nowdays and it is stupid and wrong. Your way of thinking is unbelievable!

Amen, Tom.

We're supposed to apply the rules consistently and evenly. The only colors we should be seeing are the shirts the players are wearing. If the players are trash-talking and yipping, we're supposed to take care of bidness- no matter who's doing it.

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by theboys


Since both players were black, I thought the referee handled the situation appropriately, but it sure made you think about cultural differences, and what constitutes crossing the line.

I hear more cursing or bad language in baseball games where 99% of the players are white and come from very affluent backgrounds or communities. If I threw out every white baseball player that used some foul language, I would have 2 or 3 ejections every game. So do not give me that only inner city kids of color are the ones cursing and subject to bad behavior. That is much more cursing than I ever hear working a basketball game with kids from many different races and cultures. I think you need to get a clue.

Peace

[Mark Dexter]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

Amen, Tom.

We're supposed to apply the rules consistently and evenly. The only colors we should be seeing are the shirts the players are wearing. If the players are trash-talking and yipping, we're supposed to take care of bidness- no matter who's doing it.

The "Get up" part is enough for me - T for taunting, regardless of what words come after it.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by JRutledge

I hear more cursing or bad language in baseball games where 99% of the players are white and come from very affluent backgrounds or communities. If I threw out every white baseball player that used some foul language, I would have 2 or 3 ejections every game. So do not give me that only inner city kids of color are the ones cursing and subject to bad behavior. That is much more cursing than I ever hear working a basketball game with kids from many different races and cultures. I think you need to get a clue.

Peace

So, I take it that in your opinion, there is nothing the matter with racial epithets?

That's good to know.

[Camron Rust]

Originally posted by JRutledge

I hear more cursing or bad language in baseball games where 99% of the players are white and come from very affluent backgrounds or communities. If I threw out every white baseball player that used some foul language, I would have 2 or 3 ejections every game. So do not give me that only inner city kids of color are the ones cursing and subject to bad behavior. That is much more cursing than I ever hear working a basketball game with kids from many different races and cultures. I think you need to get a clue.

Peace

Clue provided to the one who needs it most...

He said nothing about ignoring it because they were black or that a white kid wouldn't say such a thing.

His point, quite clearly (not that I agree with it though), was commenting on the fact the one who said it was the same race as the one who it was directed at. With that, he felt it was OK to handle it with a warning as opposed to a heavier penalty if it has been a white kid calling a black kid such a name.

[JRutledge]

Of course JR, that is exactly what I said.

Peace

[ChrisSportsFan]

JRut, no need to get your Under Armor in a wad just because someone says something about a race. In this situation, it was same race on same race using a slang term (which I consider inappropriate). Read the whole post and you will see that there were no ill directed comments from 1 race toward another or for that matter any stereotyping.

Here's one that will throw you into a tizzy: Did anyone see the Kentucky Derby RACE this past weekend?

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by Camron Rust


Clue provided to the one who needs it most...

He said nothing about ignoring it because they were black or that a white kid wouldn't say such a thing.

His point, quite clearly (not that I agree with it though), was commenting on the fact the one who said it was the same race as the one who it was directed at. With that, he felt it was OK to handle it with a warning as opposed to a heavier penalty if it has been a white kid calling a black kid such a name.

Life is not fair.

Peace

[tomegun]

Originally posted by ChrisSportsFan
JRut, no need to get your Under Armor in a wad just because someone says something about a race. In this situation, it was same race on same race using a slang term (which I consider inappropriate). Read the whole post and you will see that there were no ill directed comments from 1 race toward another or for that matter any stereotyping.

Here's one that will throw you into a tizzy: Did anyone see the Kentucky Derby RACE this past weekend?

I'm black too and I would give a T as a reaction in this case. One, he was taunting and secondly he called him a name that many have been beaten if not killed for. There is no place for that on a basketball court. Regardless of the color of the offending party this should have been dealt with IMO(something more than telling him not to say it again).

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by JRutledge
Of course JR, that is exactly what I said.

Tell me exactly what you mean then, Jeff, in case I am misinterpreting you. Do you feel that it's OK for anyone involved in a game to ever use racial epithets?

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Tell me exactly what you mean then, Jeff, in case I am misinterpreting you. Do you feel that it's OK for anyone involved in a game to ever use racial epithets?

My father has been dead since October of 1995. I do not have to explain anything to you, especially when I have been over this issue for years now. If you feel that is a big deal, you handle it the way you see fit. When I am at my games, I will handle it the way I see fit. I am Black and have a right to handle a situation in a way that will accomplish what I want that you as a white person might not have.

Peace