Wrong Basket

[Dudly]

Another thread got me thinking about a play I saw this year. Start of the game, official points direction and states direction. Teams are set for the jump in the right direction. A1 taps the ball behind him to A2 who drives in for an easy layup in B's basket. B quickly inbounds the ball for another easy basket. A calls a timeout to take the issue up with the ref's. Officials set the score at 4-0 with Team B in the lead. A has the ball for a baseline throw in.

I still think the score was set correctly (case book 5.2.3). Alittle lunch time bantering, another is contending that 5.2.1 E & F would apply and the score should be 2-2.

The level was boys JV and all happened within the first few seconds of the game.

Thoughts? What else could the officials have done to prevent this?

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by Dudly
Another thread got me thinking about a play I saw this year. Start of the game, official points direction and states direction. Teams are set for the jump in the right direction. A1 taps the ball behind him to A2 who drives in for an easy layup in B's basket. B quickly inbounds the ball for another easy basket. A calls a timeout to take the issue up with the ref's. Officials set the score at 4-0 with Team B in the lead. A has the ball for a baseline throw in.

I still think the score was set correctly (case book 5.2.3). Alittle lunch time bantering, another is contending that 5.2.1 E & F would apply and the score should be 2-2.

The level was boys JV and all happened within the first few seconds of the game.

Thoughts? What else could the officials have done to prevent this?

I can't see how 2-2 would work, unless B went to the *other* basket for their layup.

I don't have the book but isn't 5.2.1 E & F where the teams are pointed in the wrong direction to begin the game?

IMO 4-0 is what we gotta go with, A messed up & B was smart enough to take advantage. The officials should have blew their whistles when A put the ball in the wrong basket & straightened this out immediately, score being 2-0 for B, A gets the ball & the endline.

edit: ya know what, I'm wrong. B didn't have a right to the ball after A's mess up. Take B's basket away, give the ball to A, the score is 2-0 B.

But the officials should have caught this one before the coach.

[Edited by Dan_ref on Mar 2nd, 2005 at 04:58 PM]

[bob jenkins]

I agree with Dan.

A went the wrong way of their own volition. Count the points for B.

Then B took the ball OOB, when it should have been A who took the ball OOB. It was a mistake, not deliberate, so reset with A taking the ball OOB, and cancel B's "score".

See some case in 10 on this ("an obvious intentional act" or something is the title of it).

[tjones1]

Agree, cancel B's second basket and it is Team A's ball OOB; 2-0 Team B.

[FrankHtown]

10.1.8 calls for cancelling the basket, charging team B with a T, put time back on the clock. No technical, if the throw-in was a result of confusion, but it sure sounds like team B knew what they were doing, and tried to get away with it!!!!!

[Adam]

Originally posted by FrankHtown
10.1.8 calls for cancelling the basket, charging team B with a T, put time back on the clock. No technical, if the throw-in was a result of confusion, but it sure sounds like team B knew what they were doing, and tried to get away with it!!!!!

How about we give B their delay of game warning for grabbing the ball after a score. Take away the 2nd basket, and have the score now 2-0 for B.

[Snake~eyes]

Originally posted by Snaqwells

How about we give B their delay of game warning for grabbing the ball after a score. Take away the 2nd basket, and have the score now 2-0 for B.

I wouldn't even give a delay unless I was sure they did it on purpose. I would blow the whistle inform the teams which way they're going and give it to the proper team.