John Chaney:

[Camron Rust]

Originally posted by PS2Man
It sounds like we have some people that are more concerned with being called a racist than having a real discussion about the comments that were made and how they are perceived. I will not speak for rut but I do not care if you are or you are not a racist. That is something you have to deal with. What I do concern myself is your actions and the words you use. If you use words that are seen to be offensive, it does not matter what label someone attributes to the person that made them. All I care about is the fact the comments were made.

Rut was right on. The more things change the more they stay the same. It is just sad really.

It sounds like we have some people that are more concerned with creating racial issues where there are none than addressing the actions on their own merit.

Words to describe and offensive act should be offensive. Thug is no more racist than bully or meanie. If someone perceives it as racist, we might as well give up because every word in the dictionary would be racist.

[Edited by Camron Rust on Mar 1st, 2005 at 08:28 PM]

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by PS2Man
It sounds like we have some people that are more concerned with being called a racist than having a real discussion about the comments that were made and how they are perceived.

OK. Comment on this: a powerful 73 year old man publicly calls a 20 year old kid a goon and orders him to go into a basketball game to hunt heads.

Your comments?

(BTW, I really don't think you'll respond to this, you aint man enough. Like your buddy rut.)

[ronny mulkey]

How 'bout that SUM***** ought to be fired. ANY sum***** that did that ought to be fired. No preferential treatment BECAUSE of race, either.

No free passes on this one. No "well, he said he was sorry", either.

If Temple University doesn't can him, they ought to be ashamed.

Mulk

[PS2Man]

Originally posted by Dan_ref


OK. Comment on this: a powerful 73 year old man publicly calls a 20 year old kid a goon and orders him to go into a basketball game to hunt heads.

Your comments?

(BTW, I really don't think you'll respond to this, you aint man enough. Like your buddy rut.)

When you decide to grow up and have a real conversation I will tell you what I think.

[Rich]

Originally posted by PS2Man
It sounds like we have some people that are more concerned with being called a racist than having a real discussion about the comments that were made and how they are perceived. I will not speak for rut but I do not care if you are or you are not a racist. That is something you have to deal with. What I do concern myself is your actions and the words you use. If you use words that are seen to be offensive, it does not matter what label someone attributes to the person that made them. All I care about is the fact the comments were made.

Rut was right on. The more things change the more they stay the same. It is just sad really.

Had I called Huggins a thug in a thread about Huggins, Rut wouldn't have come on here and said anything. He only did so because of the racial issue.

Thuggery and stupidity know no color boundaries. Reading this thread, I'm reminded of this. In black and white.

[PS2Man]

Rich,

It is nice you seemed to know why someone makes a comment or not. Maybe we should call Ms Cleo and Deon Warrick to find out for sure why someone said something or not.

You are right that being a thug has no color but stereotypes sure do.

[dblref]

Originally posted by PS2Man
Rich,

It is nice you seemed to know why someone makes a comment or not. Maybe we should call Ms Cleo and Deon Warrick to find out for sure why someone said something or not.

You are right that being a thug has no color but stereotypes sure do.

Having been born and reared in the South, and still living in the South, I find this thread to be very interesting. I have to agree with PS2Man when he said: "Your are right that being a thug has no color but stereotypes sure do." It works both ways, my friend, both ways.

[RookieDude]

Originally posted by dblref

Having been born and reared in the South, and still living in the South, I find this thread to be very interesting. I have to agree with PS2Man when he said: "Your are right that being a thug has no color but stereotypes sure do." It works both ways, my friend, both ways.

Now that's about the smartest thing stated, or at least sums it all up the best, IMO, that I have read this whole thread.

[Edited by RookieDude on Mar 2nd, 2005 at 08:31 AM]

[Jimgolf]

I think that in the black community, "thug" has the implication of being a gang banger or drug dealer. Not the same as "bully".

Why so few criticisms of the league and the officials on this topic? Chaney had a press conference and threatened to use a goon - he should have been suspended then. If not, the officials should have been alerted to be on the lookout for this behavior and acted swiftly. How did this kid get 5 shots at the St. Joe's players? He should have been bounced after the first hard foul.

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by Jimgolf
I think that in the black community, "thug" has the implication of being a gang banger or drug dealer. Not the same as "bully".

That may be true but how are those of us who are not in the black community supposed to know that? I'm curious to know where we can find a list of these politically and racially incorrect terms, so we don't offend these who are so easily offended.

Why so few criticisms of the league and the officials on this topic? Chaney had a press conference and threatened to use a goon - he should have been suspended then. If not, the officials should have been alerted to be on the lookout for this behavior and acted swiftly. How did this kid get 5 shots at the St. Joe's players? He should have been bounced after the first hard foul.

Actually, there is another thread where the fouls and the officials are being discussed. Bruno, the commissioner, is catching a lot of crap for her role in all of this.

[Adam]

Originally posted by Jimgolf
I think that in the black community, "thug" has the implication of being a gang banger or drug dealer. Not the same as "bully".

This is quite possibly true in some areas of the country. However, to me, "thug" connotes "mafia" more than "gang." And that's how I see Chaney in this, as the boss having some of his goons go out and deliver a message. To me, that's a thug.

[PS2Man]

Originally posted by dblref


Having been born and reared in the South, and still living in the South, I find this thread to be very interesting. I have to agree with PS2Man when he said: "Your are right that being a thug has no color but stereotypes sure do." It works both ways, my friend, both ways.

I was born in the South too. I grew up in the South. I had gone to a predominately black school. I currently live in the South I have family members that were not allowed to go to schools other than predominately black institutions. I have lived in different parts of the country because of my career. Do not tell me what goes both ways. Maybe your family had choices where they could go to college or what types of professions they went into. Many were restricted or had very few choices on how they wanted to achieve those things in life. I take very seriously the stereotypes that are perpetuated.