John Chaney:

[Adam]

Originally posted by TravelinMan

Snaq, are you a criminal lawyer? If you are not, your comments are merely your opinion. I've learned in my life it is prudent not to speak expertly on a topic you know little about. By the way, what precedent? For a hard foul?

Why don't you read what I wrote? I said, "I think...." Ergo, it's my opinion. If you're not reading what I write, you probably shouldn't try to disagree with me.
As for the precedent, there have already been cases, in athletic contests, where a player was injured (even slightly) by a "hard foul." The key here is that it was purposeful, and the intent was to foul hard. Or, as Chaney said, to "goon it up."
Now, if you disagree, so be it. This is an opinion board, and I'm offering my opinion.

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by TravelinMan
OK, it was a premediated mistake. You mean charged as in criminally charged???? Any attorneys here. I sincerely doubt this would be considered assault. I've seen some illegal screens that could be construed as assault.......He should not be charged, but he may be fired.

He won't be fired. But he will retire.

Either way, he's done. He's 72 years old. He won't be back.

[TriggerMN]

John Chaney sends a "goon" out in a premeditated act which causes a player to break his arm. Chaney gets a slap on the wrist.

Larry Eustachy drinks a beer at a frat party and gets canned.

Good to see there's equality working here.

[Adam]

Trigger,
Eustachy earned that canning, also. But, hey, I think Chaney should be fired as well.

[Snake~eyes]

I just watched a small segment on sportscenter bout this guy, looks like he should have been fired a long time ago, he was a ticking timebomb.

[Rich]

Originally posted by JRutledge
THUG?

I know what he did was not the best thing or the smartest situation, but thug?

I guess the more things change the more they stay the same.


BTW, I do not condone anything that he did. I think it is sad. But I also feel he did exactly what many coaches do, he just made the dumb mistake and admitted to it.

Peace

Thug. It has nothing to do with the color of his skin. I've felt the same way about Huggins for a long time.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by Rich Fronheiser
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Thug. It has nothing to do with the color of his skin. I've felt the same way about Huggins for a long time.
[/B][/QUOTE]Amen to that. That whole program has always been borderline out of control.He wins though, so he gets away with it.

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by Rich Fronheiser


Thug. It has nothing to do with the color of his skin. I've felt the same way about Huggins for a long time.

Well when Bobby Knight does something or Bob Huggins does something, I want to hear the "code words" used towards them. I heard them called insane or simply crazy (which could be applied to a lot of coaches) but for some reason you never hear anyone call them a thug.

As I said, the more things change the more they stay the same. It is not my burden to worry about. It just shows once again why things are the way they are. Not just as obvious.

Peace

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by JRutledge

Well when Bobby Knight does something or Bob Huggins does something, I want to hear the "code words" used towards them. I heard them called insane or simply crazy (which could be applied to a lot of coaches) but for some reason you never hear anyone call them a thug.

What? Rich just called Huggins a thug and I agreed with him. Howinthehell does that translate into "for some reason you never hear anyone call them a thug"?

How come every time someone says something bad about anybody who might also happen to be black, you intimate that they are racists? That's freaking ridiculous.

[JRutledge]

JR,

I did not call anyone racist. Maybe that is your guilt running wild. I just pointed out a usage of language that I feel is rather inappropriate and something I do not hear said about other similar actions of other coaches. I have been here when many conversations when Bobby Knight did something. I did not hear anyone call him a thug. Or at least did not go around asking everyone here was he a thug for his actions. I have been a Bobby Knight supporter and he was accused of making contact with a player with a choke hold, he was even arrested in another country in a coaching position. For some reason I do not hear anyone calling him a thug. Now you want to throw in Bobby Huggins in this discussion to try to make it seem as if all is well. Bobby Huggins has not done anything either of these two men has done in his coaching position. He was even arrested for a DUI, but I would not call him a thug.

Let me also say this to you. If race was never a factor, you would not hear a bunch of very rich Black people constantly talk about it when they have a forum to speak on it. Whether it is Jamie Foxx, Halle Berry, Oprah Winfrey or Sidney Poitier, they seemed to be focused on how their race affects their lives and influences others that watch them.

Ron Zook when he was at Florida coaching football this past season took some football players and confronted a fraternity house. Funny, no one called him a thug. But Chaney instructs a player to be physical and a player gets hurt, then all of a sudden the coach is a thug. Again, I never will condone the behavior of Coach Chaney and the actions of his players. I am still trying to figure out why there was not flagrant foul to this player. I just always find it odd when Black players do nothing illegal or against the law they are called thugs and white coaches and players can have the same demeanor or attitude and they have character or they are just simply a bad guy. I heard a radio host in Chicago call Scottie Pippen a "gang leader" and to my knowledge the man has never been arrested for anything while a player in Chicago. I just find it interesting how fellow African-Americans can be thugs for doing certain things and their counterparts that are not Black just made bad decisions. I am sorry, I just find that odd.

Peace

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by JRutledge
JR,

I did not call anyone racist. Maybe that is your guilt running wild.

I stopped reading right there. That's the oldest trick in the world. And maybe the rottenest.

I just lost all respect for you, Jeff.

[Adam]

Actually, Bobby Knight is a thug, too. Maybe Chaney can go down and coach at Texas A&M.

[zebraman]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

I stopped reading right there. That's the oldest trick in the world. And maybe the rottenest.

I just lost all respect for you, Jeff.

Rut is irrevelant to this board. Lots of us regulars just quit responding to a particular post once he weighs in because of his senseless rants.

Z

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee


I stopped reading right there. That's the oldest trick in the world. And maybe the rottenest.

I just lost all respect for you, Jeff.

Well JR I was not looking for your respect in the first place. Sorry, that is not the reason I am here.

Peace

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by zebraman


Rut is irrevelant to this board. Lots of us regulars just quit responding to a particular post once he weighs in because of his senseless rants.

Z

I know you would like to think that, but it is not true. But if you are talking about the self-righteous group of people that talk baseball all the time on this site, think anyone that makes a comment about the war is unpatriotic and hates America and cannot understand what goes on in their state does not apply to everyone else, then please make sure all of those individuals never respond to my posts EVER!!!



Peace