Coach Belligerent in Coach's Meeting

[Mark Padgett]

Originally posted by canuckrefguy

Just my $0.02

How much is that in U.S. funds?

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by mick

Dang it, Sparky!
I got this one wrong.
I thought speeding, but it was a $50.00 seat belt.
mick

Last November I got stopped coming home from a game.

68 in a 55.

Constable on patrol does me a favor, $50 seat belt.

He didn't mention the town's $65 "handling fee".

Oh well, no points on the license.

[canuckrefguy]

Originally posted by Mark Padgett

How much is that in U.S. funds?

about the equivalent worth of your President in jelly beans...

[DownTownTonyBrown]

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Only an idiot or a sociopath would not understand these questions, among others, require an extremely limited set of answers. With no intent to "belittle".

Dan, you are getting rather personal. Did you make up the requirement that someone ask these question? You seem to be defending them rather strongly and you act as though I have personally affronted you. Perhaps it is just the use of the word 'belittle.' Who is taller you or Chuck?

I'm not sure I could arrive at the same connection from the questions you have listed - for the most part they seem to have a wide variety of potential answers. But which is it that you think I am, the idiot or the sociopath?

I'm thinking the fact that I responded when I didn't need to... points toward idiot. Probably not enough information to judge the sociopath thing.

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by DownTownTonyBrown

Dan, you are getting rather personal. Did you make up the requirement that someone ask these question? You seem to be defending them rather strongly and you act as though I have personally affronted you. Perhaps it is just the use of the word 'belittle.'

Nope, all I'm saying (which I've been saying all along) is that the local admninistrators have every right to define what needs to be discussed at the pregame coaches meeting. Whether you or I agree with it is not the question. And for sure the question is NOT does such a question "belittle" anyone (btw whether you realize it or not by introducing "belittlement" as a rationale for the coach's behavior you appear to have bought completely into the current bad notions of "disrespect", "manhood", and the like which many folks use as an excuse to pop someone in the eye...or put a bullet into them. But I digress...). The question is why does this coach feel the need to NOT comply with the local regulations? Certainly he knws about it, why not just be a man about it and give the expected answer and let everyone get on with their lives?

Who is taller you or Chuck?

Now you've gone too far!!

I'm not sure I could arrive at the same connection from the questions you have listed - for the most part they seem to have a wide variety of potential answers. But which is it that you think I am, the idiot or the sociopath?

I'm thinking the fact that I responded when I didn't need to... points toward idiot. Probably not enough information to judge the sociopath thing.

Yeah, we agree there.

[JRutledge]

Dan,

You can be disrespectful and belittle people without having gun play. Come on Dan, no one is suggesting that the coach had the right to blow someone away. Many are just suggesting that the questions are unnecessary and silly. Those questions invite a response that is not going to be just a simple "yes."

Peace

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by JRutledge
Dan,

You can be disrespectful and belittle people without having gun play. Come on Dan, no one is suggesting that the coach had the right to blow someone away.

I'm not saying one follows the other necessarily. I'm saying that the idea that a man cannot endure even the slightest forms of "disrespect" without violence (either real or threatened) is something that has gotten to be a real problem over the last 10 or 15 years or so. I don't mean to say it never happened. I mean to say when it did happen 'back in the day' it usually involved a genuine psycho ("don't mess with so-and-so, he's nuts!"). These days it's almost required, at least that's the culture across all groups. But of course all that is completely besides the point, and of course I don't mean to say one fine day a coach will blow someone's head off prior to introductions and the national anthem.

Many are just suggesting that the questions are unnecessary and silly. Those questions invite a response that is not going to be just a simple "yes."

Peace

Again, the point is we live in a world where others have some level of authority over us. Even Donald Trump, bless his orange tinted comb-over, needs to go begging to banks to bail his @ss out of bankruptcy yet again every couple of years. "The powers that be" decided the officials & the coaches need to have this discusson before the game. The officials & coaches should comply. If a coach takes it as an excuse to get all pissy with the refs then he's not adult enough to be put in his position of authority over his players.

Again, this is not about whether I think the discusson is a good, bad or silly idea (I do think it's kinda silly myself). It's about you do what you need to do without being a jerk about it.

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by Dan_ref

I'm not saying one follows the other necessarily. I'm saying that the idea that a man cannot endure even the slightest forms of "disrespect" without violence (either real or threatened) is something that has gotten to be a real problem over the last 10 or 15 years or so. I don't mean to say it never happened. I mean to say when it did happen 'back in the day' it usually involved a genuine psycho ("don't mess with so-and-so, he's nuts!"). These days it's almost required, at least that's the culture across all groups. But of course all that is completely besides the point, and of course I don't mean to say one fine day a coach will blow someone's head off prior to introductions and the national anthem.

OK Dan.

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Again, the point is we live in a world where others have some level of authority over us. Even Donald Trump, bless his orange tinted comb-over, needs to go begging to banks to bail his @ss out of bankruptcy yet again every couple of years. "The powers that be" decided the officials & the coaches need to have this discusson before the game. The officials & coaches should comply. If a coach takes it as an excuse to get all pissy with the refs then he's not adult enough to be put in his position of authority over his players.

Again, this is not about whether I think the discusson is a good, bad or silly idea (I do think it's kinda silly myself). It's about you do what you need to do without being a jerk about it.

The question for me is about the silly questions. That is why I asked him the questions I did. These questions do not invite good will or make the game better. That is really all I am saying. Disrespect or no disrespect, the questions invite a smart *** comment. All those examples you gave have people respond is a hostile manner. I have been on a plane many times and when the person behind the desk asks, "Did you let anyone handle your luggage?" The response from people is not a simple "yes." I would always here something kind of smart *** comment or someone trying to be funny. They do not ask you before you get on the plane, "Do you think you will behave the entire flight?" That would be silly. So are these questions about sportsmanship. All you need to do is make a simple statement about how important sportsmanship is, you do not need to have people look into the future and tell you what kind of behavior everyone is going to have when we do not know what kind of adversity is going to take place.

Again, just an opinion.

[Jurassic Referee]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dan_ref

Originally posted by DownTownTonyBrown
Who is taller you or Chuck?

Now you've gone too far!!

Or you could look at it another way. Maybe Chuck is the one that doesn't go far enough.

[mick]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

Originally posted by Dan_ref

Or you could look at it another way. Maybe Chuck is the one that doesn't go far enough.

...Intelligence out of this world with his feet touching the ground?
He's good.
mick

[ReadyToRef]

I have the wonderful coach today in the Middle School tournament semifinals. I'll let you know how it goes.

[Jurassic Referee]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by mick

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

...Intelligence out of this world with his feet touching the ground?
He's good.

Cranky l'il feller though:

[ReadyToRef]

They give a lot of weight to these pregame conferences here. In my first Rec game, I gave a T and did a game report on a player who said "F@#k him. He's really pi$$ing me off. I'm tired of his sh!t." after my partner called a foul on him. Rec said they'd normally suspend a player for that but since we didn't have a pregame meeting, they couldn't. My response to that was I'd never cover that in a pregame meeting.

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by JRutledge

OK Dan.

Jeff, you're funny.

Both my sons acted this way until they were about 17 or so.

They're more fun now that they've grown up.

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by Dan_ref


Jeff, you're funny.

Both my sons acted this way until they were about 17 or so.

They're more fun now that they've grown up.

I would rather not say what was really thinking. You tend to get offended rather easily. I will just let it go.

Peace