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This past weekend I was watching a game while waiting for mine to start. There was 30 secs left and team B was down by 4. Team B came down on a fastbreak and missed a shot. Team A gets the rebound and fastbreaks up the court near Team B's bench. Coach B reaches out and swipes the ball away from the girl dribbling. I couldn't believe what I was seeing!
I've seen coaches do some pretty stupid things but this took the cake. Do to the fact that it was a camp and the refs out there were new, they only gave him a technical. I would have ejected him immediately! Has this happened to anyone and how was it handled? |
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I have never had it happen to me or seen it happen, but I agree with you. Had this been a real game, Coach B would have taken an early trip to the showers. MTD, Sr.
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Just asking.
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This should not be acceptable! |
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Again, I'm just asking. What's the basis for considering this flagrant?
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If I had the game, I, too, would eject the coach.
I look at at like this: He is violating TWO different parts of rule 10-4. First, by making contact with a player on the court, I would say this constitutes entering the court without being beckoned by an official. Second, he is committing an unsporting foul by impeding the progress of a player on the floor. I'm not saying this is correct, I'm just saying what my line of thinking is. |
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I think this is a flagrant unsportsmanlike foul. It exceeds all bounds of what a coach can or should do.
It is an ejection, and he would finish this game from the locker room and here in Utah (at least high school) he would be absent from the next one too. |
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Throw him out and do everything you can to insure his team does not win, 2 Ts.
In my mind, this is very similiar to the 6th player jumping in and blocking a shot/fouling an opponent that came up previously. Coaches coach, players play, and officials officiate and don't mix those up. We all know that coaches will try officiating, who'd of thunk they would try playing too?
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Hey, I don't like the coaches actions anymore the rest of you. However, I don't see where the rules support ejection. His actions don't come under the definition of "flagrant" and I think it's a big stretch to give two technicals for one action.
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Rule 4-19-4 says a flagrant foul may be a personal or technical foul of a violent or saveage nature, or a technical noncontact foul which displays unacceptable conduct.
You don't think reaching out into the playing area and knocking the ball out of a players hands is not unacceptable conduct? |
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Since the coach did not touch the player, and the coach is a nonplayer, I have a foul by a nonplayer, which 4-19-5a says is a technical foul and since I consider illegally interfering with the game unacceptable conduct to me it meets the above definition of flagrant. He's gone. Ask yourself this, what would you do to a random fan who did this as he walked by the court? I don't think any of us would hesitate to have the fan removed from the gym. Why? Because that conduct is unacceptable. |
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I cannot believe that this is even a debate, it's a no brainer. The coach deliberately interfered with the play of the game physically, he's gone, no debate and the guy undergo a serious evaluation of whether he should ever coach again. One flagrant T, coach is gone, period.
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