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[rainmaker]

Originally posted by Hawks Coach
rainmaker
The only point I would make is that the elbow being outside the body makes no difference in this case. If the offensive player pivots into the defensive player, regardless of what makes contact, that player is committing a PC foul. If the defender has LGP, it doesn't matter how the offensive player makes the contact, it is still illegal.

That's what I was trying to say, as regards any contact. But also, if there's no contact, and the ball-handler is trying to "feint, release or move the ball to avoid a held ball" , then there's no violation. The omvement of the ball is the point, in the case of deciding whether to call a violation. Contact is the point in deciding whether to call a foul.