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Old Mon Jun 21, 2004, 08:40am
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If the shot is made, though, it's not a cheap PC anymore, right? It's a gotta-getta, right?
If the shot goes and the defense is put at no disadvantage (minor contact by A1), a *no-call* could easily work.
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Especially if there's a big margin in the score with only a few minutes to go.
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Old Mon Jun 21, 2004, 08:57am
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If there's no advantage gained by A1 for making the contact with B1, no foul. Just because A1 makes a shot that he has made more difficult doesn't mean there's a foul. Unless B1 is put at a disadvantage (knocked down or out of rebounding position), there's no foul. Whether the shot goes in really doesn't matter here.

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Old Mon Jun 21, 2004, 09:27am
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Re: Re: A Foul?

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A1 jumps INTO B1 and initiates the body contact? Never a foul on B1 unless B1 sneaks under an airborne shooter
Or unless the defender has placed a foot OOB.
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Old Mon Jun 21, 2004, 10:03am
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Unless the arms were sticking way out away from the body why would we worry about a foul.

I have seen way too many officials take away goo defense because the defenders hands were not back even with the shoulders. Rule book never states this... Verticality means cant be outside body space. Most players the body space is largest at chest/torso area. We should allow the hands to be at least even with the chest other wise it is an uncomfortable/unreasonable guarding position.

So if the hands went up even with the chest, Id say good guarding.

I agree with Mick morelikely a no call
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Old Tue Jun 22, 2004, 04:59am
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If the shot is made, though, it's not a cheap PC anymore, right? It's a gotta-getta, right?
If the shot goes and the defense is put at no disadvantage (minor contact by A1), a *no-call* could easily work.
mick
So with the no call I got a disgusted look from the player, and a yell fromn the coach telling the player to play through the non call. PS Talked to the coach after the game said I did the right thing. It is time to become an official and not a fan.
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Old Tue Jun 22, 2004, 05:53am
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... So with the no call I got a disgusted look from the player....
Dave,
The longer we do this thing the more we realize that those are not disgusted looks from players, but *stoopid* looks.
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