Odd ball plays!

[DownTownTonyBrown]

Originally posted by Snaqwells
Just a question, but shouldn't the lead drift out a bit (maybe free throw line or so) as if covering a press? In case there's actually some activity to cover?

snaqwells

We're not instructed to box in the court but the players. Were you trying to make another hint to the defenders??? I don't think I would have been much passed the farthest player down the court... surely not standing alone, under the basket, 60 feet from the nearest player.

[Adam]

Originally posted by DownTownTonyBrown

We're not instructed to box in the court but the players. Were you trying to make another hint to the defenders??? I don't think I would have been much passed the farthest player down the court... surely not standing alone, under the basket, 60 feet from the nearest player. [/B]

DTTB,
That's what I was getting at. People are talking about the L standing underneath the A's basket when T is at half court administering the throw-in, and 8 of the players are under B's basket. Right now we've got 8 players with no immediate supervision.
Boxing the players would require standing, at least, at the free throw extended of B's basket, an odd place for the L to be when you're heading the other way. I'm trying to figure out the proper positioning mechanic for this. Right now I'm thinking the L should actually be positioned at roughly half court on this play.

Adam

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by Snaqwells

Just a question, but shouldn't the lead drift out a bit (maybe free throw line or so) as if covering a press? In case there's actually some activity to cover?

snaqwells

Actually this is a great question, something I didn't think of. Our goal is to get in position to make good calls, and here I was 60 feet away from the nearest player. On the other hand my partner was OOB about halfway into A's backcourt (where everyone was) as he bounced the ball to A1. So....was I standing in the correct place. I think so, because to have moved significantly downcourt I would have been helping A "sell" their trick but more importantly everyone knew (or should have known) that A was going to attack the basket I was standing by. I was standing in the right place to make a good call as the play developed.

BTW, Juulie hit on something. In my play coach B decided to take his humiliation out on me, instead of taking a TO and regrouping (reaming?) his team. Out of character for him, he's a good guy and both are good teams - it was a good game even after this happened but B obviously came out napping and they paid for it at home. I found BBallCoach's
post funny because my first instinct would have been to bang his @ss as he jumped off the bench but I kinda felt his pain. Goes to show, no good deed goes unpunished.

Maybe I should have just ripped his arm off & beat him with the wet end, eh JR?

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by Dan_ref
BTW, Juulie hit on something...

Every once in a while, the odds are this'll happen, however accidental!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by Dan_ref
[/B]

Maybe I should have just ripped his arm off & beat him with the wet end, eh JR?

[/B][/QUOTE]If you're in a good mood.

But if you're in a bad mood, ........(please don't make me say it. I'm trying to be good today).

[Camron Rust]

Originally posted by rainmaker
I've seen this play work once, and it was a doozy. The team that pulled it off was down by like 25 at the half, and ended up losing by about 40. But I think they should have won just for succeeding at this one thing. The coach of Team B wasn't paying much attention, she was doing something with her clipboard, and when she looked up and realized what had just happened, she called an immediate time out and just reamed her players up one side and down the other.

I once thought I was seeing this player (sort of)...


3A Varisty Girls. First half. Team A calls a timeout with the ball being put in play under Team B's basket. Coming out of the timeout, looks like a full court press. All 10 players in the backcourt. I hand A1 the ball. A1 passes it in to A2 who proceeds to dribble to the top of the backcourt key. I'm think, oh, they're running a trick play. I'm counting to 10 thinking A2 is going to bolt to the other end any second now. They've got team B confused. Their play is going to work. Coach A is screaming (at his players). Partner (new lead), who's in front of the coach, says "Want a timeout?". Coach responds, "uh....yeah". There was no trick play. We contained our laughter until halftime.

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

Maybe I should have just ripped his arm off & beat him with the wet end, eh JR?

[/B]

If you're in a good mood.

But if you're in a bad mood, ........(please don't make me say it. I'm trying to be good today). [/B][/QUOTE]

Hey, just go outside for a nice long walk, you'll feel better.

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by Camron Rust

I once thought I was seeing this player (sort of)...


3A Varisty Girls. First half. Team A calls a timeout with the ball being put in play under Team B's basket. Coming out of the timeout, looks like a full court press. All 10 players in the backcourt. I hand A1 the ball. A1 passes it in to A2 who proceeds to dribble to the top of the backcourt key. I'm think, oh, they're running a trick play. I'm counting to 10 thinking A2 is going to bolt to the other end any second now. They've got team B confused. Their play is going to work. Coach A is screaming (at his players). Partner (new lead), who's in front of the coach, says "Want a timeout?". Coach responds, "uh....yeah". There was no trick play. We contained our laughter until halftime.

If you'll tell who, I'll tell.

[Camron Rust]

Originally posted by rainmaker

If you'll tell who, I'll tell.

It's been a few years...not exactly sure. It was at either St. Helens or Scappoose. I can't remember if it was the home or the visitor. I'm also not sure who my partner was.

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by Camron Rust

It's been a few years...not exactly sure. It was at either St. Helens or Scappoose. I can't remember if it was the home or the visitor. I'm also not sure who my partner was.

i don't need to know partner. My game was Lincoln JV vs Roosevelt JV. You know how mellow the Lincoln coach usually is. But she was in rare form that day!

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by BktBallRef
For two years, we discussed a delay or a 5 second warning but the Fed said "No, this is a violation."

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by ChuckElias

Prior to this, Chuck was one of the few who "guessed" what the NF would finally rule.

Until the rule was re-written last year, it was "not" a violation.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by BktBallRef
Until the rule was re-written last year, it was "not" a violation.

It was always a violation. You guys just didn't interpret it right.

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by ChuckElias

It was always a violation. You guys just didn't interpret it right.

Then why did they change the rule AND add the case play?

[Dan_ref]

Coach, the "kids" I ref for are big boys. And mostly they are big boys from the big city. I have no problem engaging in discussion with them. Sometimes we're angry and yell at each other, sometimes we laugh and joke with each other. Sometimes what we're laughing about is you, you should hear some of the stupid sh!t that comes out of your mouth, but that is an entirely different discussion. Having said that - when I asked B1 if he knew which way he was going it was obviously meant as a joke. It was obviously recieved as a joke, the kid half grinned half scowled and said "shut up". I laughed, he laughed and the half started.

So unbunch your panties and relax, OK? I know you're protective of your team but I aint gonna hurt them.