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Old Fri Nov 15, 2024, 04:06pm
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A1 has the ball at disposal for a free throw. Before A1 begins his shooting motion and releases the ball on the try, A4 in a marked lane space fouls B4, also in a marked lane space. Does Team A have team control (for fouls) when the ball is at A1's disposal? Is the foul by A4 a team control foul and thus no free throws for B4 if Team B is in the bonus?
6.7 SITUATION B: After A1 starts the free-throwing motion, A2 commits a foul by pushing B1. RULING: If the foul occurred after the ball was in flight, the point counts if the throw was successful and no substitute throw is awarded if not successful. If A1 had not released the free-throw attempt before A2 fouled B1, the ball became dead when the team-control foul occurred and A1 is permitted an unhindered free throw. The foul by A2 results in the ball being awarded to Team B at the out-of-bounds spot nearest to where A2 fouled B1, unless the free-throw attempt by A1 is successful in which case B will throw-in from out of bounds any- where along the end line where the free throw was scored. (4-19-7, 4-19-9, 7-5-7)

4-19-7 referenced in the CB play is the Team Control Foul.

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Old Fri Nov 15, 2024, 05:46pm
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If A1 had not released the free-throw attempt before A2 fouled B1, the ball became dead when the team-control foul occurred and A1 is permitted an unhindered free throw.
No continuous motion on a foul by the offense.

If A1 had not reacted to the whistle in a timely manner and had released the ball and "successfully" made a dead ball free throw, Team A head coach would be very upset when A1's "successful" throw was canceled and then A1 missed his unhindered free throw.

If Team A head coach is the visitor, he's probably headed out to sit on the cold dark bus in the cold dark parking lot.
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Old Fri Nov 15, 2024, 08:19pm
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No continuous motion on a foul by the offense.



If A1 had not reacted to the whistle in a timely manner and had released the ball and "successfully" made a dead ball free throw, Team A head coach would be very upset when A1's "successful" throw was canceled and then A1 missed his unhindered free throw.



If Team A head coach is the visitor, he's probably headed out to sit on the cold dark bus in the cold dark parking lot.
A concise, 10-word explanation should prevent any need for a coach heading out to the bus.

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Old Sat Nov 16, 2024, 11:42am
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A concise, 10-word explanation should prevent any need for a coach heading out to the bus.
1) I was being facetious (they will be ejected to the locker room or another interior area), the important part of the post was how to handle the "successful" dead ball free throw.

2) If concise, ten word explanations prevented coach ejections, there would be far fewer coach ejections.

Back in the day, we had some local "old school" officials who would purposely get into arguments with coaches with the intent to eventually eject them, and then show up at the post game "watering holes" proudly wearing their "badge of honor" (and free adult beverages).

Those days, locally, for the most part, are long gone. Game management has become much more nuanced than in the past.

Connecticut coaches are still ejected (too often according to the CIAC, which recently increased the ejection penalty from one game to two games, multiple ejections can lead to a $250 school fine and the team being barred from CIAC postseason competition), almost always due to their own fault, very rarely due an overzealous official with ill intent.
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