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Old Sat Apr 08, 2023, 04:51pm
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There was delay called earlier and unlike HS basketball they have a delay for not giving the ball to the officials (football actually has a similar rule BTW). Now that being said, if a delay had been called before, then it is expected you know this as a player and act accordingly. Not the same rule in the NF, but you can give a T for that action and it is not apart of the delay. Now her action was done in anger and that is why she got the T, not just because she threw the ball. It probably had been ignored if she had just let the ball lay, but she threw it so there you go.

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Old Sat Apr 08, 2023, 05:52pm
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There was delay called earlier and unlike HS basketball they have a delay for not giving the ball to the officials. Now that being said, if a delay had been called before, then it is expected you know this as a player and act accordingly. Not the same rule in the NF, but you can give a T for that action and it is not apart of the delay.
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That said, the college rule is worded differently than the high school rule, and I'm not a college official.
Agree.

In high school basketball we can't give any official warning for not giving the ball to the officials, the NFHS expects us to go directly to a technical foul, which many of us (at least me) are reluctant to do.

I college, not giving the ball to the officials is grouped in with the other delay situations, and in the absence of any previous delays, it can be warned.
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Old Sat Apr 08, 2023, 07:52pm
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Agree.

In high school basketball we can't give any official warning for not giving the ball to the officials, the NFHS expects us to go directly to a technical foul, which many of us (at least me) are reluctant to do.

I college, not giving the ball to the officials is grouped in with the other delay situations, and in the absence of any previous delays, it can be warned.
I do not work women's college basketball so I do not know what their standard is to even call this. All I know is that I will T a kid if they are blatantly disrespectful. Meaning they clearly push the ball away and I have seen guys literally tell the player, "If you do not go get that ball, I am T'ing you up." I have seen officials at the college level do that in games I was on and it worked. But not seen a T just for that reason alone, it is usually when a player is doing extra. I am going to assume that the T in this game was something they addressed and she just did not comply. Again, if the player does not do this then there is no issue.

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Old Sun Apr 09, 2023, 06:31am
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I do not work women's college basketball so I do not know what their standard is to even call this. All I know is that I will T a kid if they are blatantly disrespectful.
That's the general standard.

Didn't watch the game and have no idea whether there were already "unofficial warnings" given
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Old Sun Apr 09, 2023, 01:07pm
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That's the general standard.

Didn't watch the game and have no idea whether there were already "unofficial warnings" given
According to the pool reporter, there was one given by the official. The T was the second offense.

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Old Sun Apr 09, 2023, 01:12pm
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According to the pool reporter, there was one given by the official. The T was the second offense.
Yes, I believe that the first delay offense was an "official" delay warning for attempting to gain an advantage by interfering with the ball after a goal.
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Old Sun Apr 09, 2023, 02:16pm
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Yes, I believe that the first delay offense was an "official" delay warning for attempting to gain an advantage by interfering with the ball after a goal.
Gaining an advantage is not the bar for what she got T'd with. But it involves two things that could get a warning. Either way, a warning was given prior. Different rule as it relates to the Men's game for sure.

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Old Sun Apr 09, 2023, 08:36am
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"If you do not go get that ball, I am T'ing you up."
Sounds similar to what I say in my high school games.
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