DQ Player

[Valley Man]

A1 has been charged with 5 fouls and is disqualified. Coach is notified and A1 takes a seat. 2 minutes later A1 reports to the scorers table and is beckoned on the floor. Direct technical foul to coach for allowing a disqualified player to participate.

Don't allow the player to enter?
Beckon player even though you know they are disqualified? and give technical?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Valley Man

Don't allow the player to enter? Beckon player even though you know they are disqualified? and give technical?

No need for "Gotcha Perry Mason Moment" here. If he doesn't become a player, no penalty, send him back to the bench.

10-6-3: The head coach must not permit a team member to participate after being removed from the game for disqualification.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Valley Man

A1 has been charged with 5 fouls and is disqualified. Coach is notified ...

Nitpicking.

Be careful with rule language. A1 is "officially" disqualified only after the head coach is notified.

[JRutledge]

If you realize that this was the fouled out player, stop it right there.

If you do not realize it at the time and they come into the game, they have given you little choice.

Peace

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If you do not realize it at the time and they come into the game, they have given you little choice.

This is the part where a sanctimonious forum member jumps in and states that officials should be omniscient and never let this happen.


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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

This is the part where a sanctimonious forum member jumps in and states that officials should be omniscient and never let this happen.

Sometimes we just have to depend on our table crew. If a disqualified player tries to enter the game, or if a player substituted for doesn't sit a tick, or if a team uses its allotted timeouts, I count on my table crew to inform me. I've got more urgent things to think about in a game. Sometimes I'll unilaterally catch these situations, but other times I won't. That's why the table crew gets paid big bucks.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Sometimes we just have to depend on our table crew. If a disqualified player tries to enter the game, or if a player substituted for doesn't sit a tick, or if a team uses its allotted timeouts, I count on my table crew to inform me. I've got more urgent things to think about in a game. Sometimes I'll unilaterally catch these situations, but other times I won't. That's why the table crew gets paid big bucks.

What other urgent things are on your mind when subs are coming into the game? Unless we have a multitude of players fouling out, it shouldn't be too taxing on the brain to remember that a certain player fouled out.

One of my early mentors used to quiz us in camp during time-outs as to the information on the scoreboard (time/score/team fouls/possession). Also used to teach us to track the numbers of the players who subbed out so that WE would catch it if a player checked back in before time came off the clock.

She's the one who inspired me to utilize my brain to its fullest extent when officiating. She is now a D1/D2 NCAA-Women's conference supervisor.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

This is the part where a sanctimonious forum member jumps in and states that officials should be omniscient and never let this happen.

If you never let it happen then you will not have to debate about the rule that would apply otherwise, now would you? Often rules situations are created by not doing the basics. Why are you putting the ball in play when your partner has their back turned to you and dealing with the table? Kind of basic.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If you never let it happen then you will not have to debate about the rule that would apply otherwise, now would you? Often rules situations are created by not doing the basics. Why are you putting the ball in play when your partner has their back turned to you and dealing with the table? Kind of basic.

Peace

Early in my JuCo career I administered a free throw while my partner was still discussing something at the table. Our supervisor was there, and I'll just say, it's something that never happened to me again...LOL

[ilyazhito]

Originally Posted by Valley Man

A1 has been charged with 5 fouls and is disqualified. Coach is notified and A1 takes a seat. 2 minutes later A1 reports to the scorers table and is beckoned on the floor. Direct technical foul to coach for allowing a disqualified player to participate.

Don't allow the player to enter?
Beckon player even though you know they are disqualified? and give technical?

If the coach was properly notified that A1 was disqualified, and A1 had been substituted for, I would remind the coach "Why is Number X at the table? He was disqualified" If the coach withdraws A1 before he is beckoned in, no issue. If A1 was actually beckoned in, then assess the technical foul.